• Aradina [She/They]@lemmy.ml
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    So do people just not understand that temperature tolerance is a limited thing based on your climate and any deviations can feel significant?

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      No, they do not, and most of them aren’t willing to understand, either.

      People, or at least NT people, with higher temperature tolerance are almost always assholes about it - I have weird heat sensitivity, I suspect on account of my Autism, and I only stopped getting constant shit for it once I basically entirely stopped talking to NTs.

      The people in this thread are just seizing on an excuse to shit on people they perceive as weaker, or an excuse to shit on the English as if they are actually inherently evil just by existing. Or both.

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        It’s an byproduct of this site’s podcast fandom origin. Some people don’t understand that Chapo’s “bullying is cool” bit is comedic irony aimed at wealthy journalists and politicians on twitter who never actually experience bullying and just have no context for seeing negative feedback to their broadly unpopular opinions.

        It’s also just common regional chauvinism. The same people here who say stuff like “just open a window dipshit, it’s worse where I live and I think it’s comfortable!” will go on to lament the seriousness of climate change elsewhere, then go right on to another post about low temperatures in winter and comment something like “just put on a sweater dipshit, it’s worse where I live and I think it’s comfortable!”

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          Yeah. The worst is how they always double down when confronted. It’s the same shit libs do when confronted on their bigotries.

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              I’m from a climate that’s typically 30-35c 70-100% humidity that has single digit days under 20.

              26c is a cool evening to me because I’m fairly used to it. Not everyone is me though, and being over the age of 10, I have a thing called “theory of mind.” Which is the ability to conceptualise that other people are also people. You should work on that, it’s fairly vital.

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        Ableism is, unfortunately, extremely common on hexbear.

        I think that the shitting on the British is just overcompensation for having been really into Doctor Who and Sherlock in their Tumblr phase. I’m Australian, so I do love to insult the British, but people just overdo it.

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        It is interesting to see high heat and associated sweating as quite a powerful stimulus which often causes overstimulation particularly in people with neuro divergence. So sometimes it’s not even a heat tolerance problem but an overstimulation problem which NTs seem to have a hard time understanding.

        Also like others have said, perception of temperature changed is largely dependent on where your current baseline is.

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          I have fibromyalgia and autism so it’s a combo for me. Heat makes pain worse, discomfort increases sensitivity, etc etc bad times.

          Even just new meds can fuck with your ability to process heat. When I started prozac I would feel hot and get sweaty from basically any activity, which then meant I’d get cold, shiver, sweat more. NTs are fucking weird

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          In my case it almost feels like my body’s reaction to heat has a screwed-up sense of how hot things are. I can’t take hot showers, for example, which are objectively not dangerous, because they genuinely feel like they are going to burn me - normal-hot-shower temperature water feels like like a wet hot pan, it’s like my cap is just lower. Ambient heat in the air and light doesn’t do that in the same way, but it can make walls and stuff feel like that, naturally.

          I hadn’t thought of it from the overstimulation angle before, though, but now that I think about it I think you’re right, that is at least part of why I hate ambient heat and particularly sweating. Thank you for that insight.

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            That sounds super frustrating, do you have any idea why that might be? I know certain conditions like Raynauds or some medication can fuck with temperature perception.

            Oh no worries, my partner described it to me that way as she gets pretty much the same symptoms in the heat that she gets in large crowds or noisy environments. Then we looked it up and other people (especially those with ASD) described it the same way!

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        an excuse to shit on the English as if they are actually inherently evil just by existing

        Yes this one, although it’s very generous to consider the last 500 years of colonial domination “just existing”

        Obviously there are a range of conditions that impact temperature sensitivity and people with these should be afforded all accommodations to make their lives better, but I don’t consider being British a legitimate condition

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            Did you miss the second paragraph?

            It’s not actually ableism to experience joy at the thought of able bodied NT 30 year old British people suffering from 26 degree weather

            I imagine there’s heaps of Brits with post-covid POTS and you don’t see a single article on them struggling not to pass out when the temperature is 20 or above

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              What news outlets publish any kind of article about the suffering of disables people due to the environment?

              Genuinely I would like to know if you hear about how post covid disabled people suffer in any kind of mainstream media?

              Just because you construct an ideal justified victim of the UK heat doesn’t actually excuse you from the reality of who will be victimised.

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                It’s been hotter than this “heatwave” in my home country (with no AC) every day for the last 20 years

                I am not going to cry for Angloids because you have put a progressive spin on your whinging and self-victimization at lukewarm temperatures

                This is pure first-world-problems and chauvinism, the article is centering the conversation on Britain as a whole being under duress, it doesn’t say anything about disabled people. It’s another in a long line of white people being the center of the world and any minor inconvenience to them being a huge deal everyone else has to consider and worry about. I don’t give a fuck if Britain is 80 F. Literal non-story that has wasted my time, yet another anglo imposition of specialness

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                  Disabled people exist wether or not a shitass news org covers them, dipshit.

                  It’s progressive to be concerned over disabled people in the imperial core, you are literally just being ableist.

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                    Yeah we are dunking on the article. You decided to change the topic and then get all offended in a way that just so coincidentally vindicates the British persecution complex that you have.

                    British aren’t persecuted. Getting all hot and bothered over a cool day is funny. You are pale and weak of constitution. Having a whole nation of fish people who can’t take the heat is your problem, not mine.

                    Third world countries have disabled people too and much worse temperatures even during non heatwaves. You don’t see articles about that. Stop trying to use ableism as a bludgeon when it was you that entered that topic into the conversation and not the article we are dunking on.

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                What news outlets publish any kind of article about the suffering of disables people due to the environment?

                Yes, this is my point - we can enjoy articles about the “average” Brit suffering because there aren’t usually articles posted about actual suffering that can be easily addressed.

                doesn’t actually excuse you from the reality of who will be victimised

                All of them, all of the Brits will be victimised.

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      Not to mention that just from person to person within the same climate there are significant differences, probably genetic at their core. Two people can be sitting in the exact same spot and one will be burning up and the other freezing cold and neither of them are “wrong”