• return2ozma@lemmy.worldOP
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    29 days ago

    I really hate this timeline and it’s infuriating that the Biden admin seems to be so flippant about another Trump presidency. Yes Biden and Co. keep saying “Trump bad” but that’s it! FIGHT FOR US JOE! JFC! Give the people tangible policies to vote for. You should be running away with this vote against Trump.

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      29 days ago

      Give the people tangible policies to vote for.

      This is bad advice because that’s obviously not what’s attracting Trump voters. What Biden and the Democrats really need to do is give a reason for voters to shun the Republican party and Trump especially, or basically do what Republicans are doing to Democrats.

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        29 days ago

        If you can move the debate to actual policies, Dems will always win. Problem is the interest in presenting this as a horse race, and the focus on outrage quotes. That includes Lemmy- Politics where the few topics on actual policy get few upvotes, and activity.

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          29 days ago

          Exactly. And Democrats have been trying to push their policies as good ones since forever. But outrage politics that so popular from TikTok to the NYT focuses more on the moral failures of politicians than their policy prescriptions or outcomes. That’s why they believe Biden is a pedophile while Trump’s name was on Epstein’s plane list multiple times. Most people are going to hear that Biden is pedophile because it shows up on the news in some form repeatedly, while being completely unaware of Trump solidifying a place for himself in hell.

          That’s all to say, that yeah, it’s a horse race, but it’s not a horse race about winning exactly. It’s about which candidate gets covered in the most horse shit and mud to deter voters. And the right-wing media ecosystem is vast and repetitive.

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      28 days ago

      Exactly. He should be doing something about student loan debt. Like blanket forgiving it and if they stop him in the courts then he should turn around and use the judgements to identify more narrow actions he should take. He should get rid of the bs of companies calling all their employees exempt and not paying overtime. Or do something about non compete clauses in contracts. Or fight the roe vs wade and get an over the counter birth control pill available. At least get passed a large budget bill that prioritizes encouraging energy efficiency and green energy. Maybe getting our aging infrstructure more healthy while your at it. How about do something about all these bs fees companies charge. Or hey given jan 6th how about revising the law to make it clear the vice president can’t just choose the presidential electors. Maybe incentivize important production capacity for the country like microchips. Cancers been around for awhile. How bout putting more effort toward eliminating that. Or jeesh at least make the airlines not blow you off if they cancel a flight. I mean common. Show us something with the one term youve gotten. Anything at all. Something we can measure against trumps accomplishments in the term he got.

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        28 days ago

        It’s honestly getting infuriating how people around here don’t want to acknowledge what Biden’s been doing the last 3 years. Yours is one of the few positive comments I’ve seen about JB in months.

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          I have said it before but I am blown away by what he has accomplished in one term with such an adversarial setup. I loved obama but he pretty much flushed his first term down the toilet trying to work with the rebulicans. Granted joe had that as a lesson learned by that time. There are to many lessons in recent history to ignore. How much better position would we be environment wise if the president after carter had not symbolically taken down the solar panels and had a deregulation emphasis and then put in gore whose main platform was global warming instead of bush jr. Then we have had 45 years of tax cuts (any time its been raised its by an insignificant amounts next to the cuts) and it has not been a good thing. As a matter of fact from my experience the time following tax increases have tended to be better right up to about when they cut them again.