• vga@sopuli.xyz
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    6 months ago

    And are generally ok with LGBTQIA+, I think it’s important to note.

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      6 months ago

      Generally okay with, but are they generally OK with legislation protecting those individuals/recognizing them as protected under the same laws that protect for factors of sex and race?

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        5 months ago

        Well, we think bigots should be allowed to come out as bigoted so we can cancel them. If they generally hide and still do it sneaky-like, a law wouldn’t stop them

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        Yes, with the caveat that libertarianism is opposed to some of those laws for any group.

        For example, libertarianism strongly condemns murder, but does not support hate crime laws whereby the murderer’s motive becomes a separate crime provided it interacts with a protected class, such as murdering someone based on sex or race.

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        5 months ago

        Probably yes and no: yes insofar that they are for identical rights for everyone, no insofar that they are for identical rights for everyone.

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      5 months ago

      “Okay” with their existence. Not with protecting them from abuse and persecution.

      Which about sums up the fundamental flaw with libertarians and why they are basically chickenshit republicans.

      Everyone has a right to exist. But you are on your own because I am not paying for that since I don’t personally care about it

      It is why the silver bullet is, and always will be, “explain how orphanages work under libertarianism”

      At which point you just have people vaguely saying they support other people’s rights while still wanting to pay no taxes, offer no help to anyone who doesn’t directly impact them, and still want to get everything they want.

      Libertarianism as a personal philosophy? You are an asshole. Libertarianism as a government? You are basically advocating for all the same shit republicans are but are too cowardly to admit what you actually want.

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        “Okay” with their existence. Not with protecting them from abuse and persecution.

        I guess it depends on what kind of abuse we’re talking about… but in many places I believe just the cessation of abuse and persecution from the direction of the government would be a pretty big positive change.

        Or perhaps I don’t have enough imagination. Can you tell me what kinds of protection LGBT people need that other people don’t need?

        It is why the silver bullet is, and always will be, “explain how orphanages work under libertarianism”

        Can you elaborate? I don’t get what this is implying.