Western media have finally change course. They are now admitting that the much promoted Ukrainian counter-offensive has failed. In fact, the acknowledge that it never had a chance to win in the first place.
The Hill, the Washington Post and CNN now agree that the Ukrainian army will never achieve its aims.
western MSM has a rare encounter with reality!
That makes it difficult for the Biden administration to get Congress approval for $24 billion in additional ‘aid’ to Ukraine. It does not make sense to pay for a cause that is evidently lost.
b seems overly hopeful regarding the rationality of US congress, but i think hes right- why would we throw more money at them, US politicians have made it clear they do not support bringing Ukraine into NATO if they do not win this conflict. of course, US politicians are prone to lying and misleading
Nothing has come from the ‘peace conference’ which Saudi Arabia arranged on Ukraine’s behalf
lol. lmao even. props to big dog MBS for trying
Despite the onslaught of bad news the Ukrainian army is still trying to take Russian positions in the south and east of Ukraine. But it simply does not have enough in men and material to break through the lines.
Even if they would manage to get a local breakthrough there are not enough reserves to push for the necessary follow up. Just one of the NATO trained brigades has still been held back. All others have been mauled in their various deployment zones.
nothing has changed it seems
In the northeast around Kupyansk the Russians have started their own offensive which has the Ukrainians on the run. Ukraine has ordered the evacuation of the area
But Kupyansk is a Russian city and people refuse to leave.
show this to the libs claiming Russians are committing genocide in the regions they capture. curious that these civilians are content with Russian occupation when you believe what western media claims
The Russian campaign is slowly speeding up. As the Ukrainian Strana.news reports (machine translation):
Also in Ukraine, it is recorded that from Kupyansk to Bakhmut, Russia has increased the number of attacks.
"Over the past month, the total number of attacks in the Kupyansk, Limansky and Bakhmut directions has grown significantly. In July, during the week there were 6-6.5 thousand attacks, during the last week-9 thousand attacks, " - said the representative of the National Guard Ruslan Muzychuk.
According to him, the Russian Federation does not experience “shell hunger”.
Aviation is also actively used, and over the past few weeks, more than 50 air attacks have been taking place every day, and sometimes more than 80.
That is bad news for the Ukrainian side which lacks the reserves to counter the Russian onslaught. There are also less weapons coming in from the West. F-16 fighter jets will be delayed for another nine months due to training issues. Tanks and other material are in short supply.
these supply issues sure bode well for the west’s performance in WW3
Strana also report of an interview with a knowledgeable Ukrainian soldier (machine translation):
Continuing the topic of the situation at the front, an interesting interview was given by a Ukrainian sniper fighting near Bakhmut with the call sign “Grandfather”. On the air of political scientist Yuri Romanenko, he was introduced as Konstantin Proshinsky (this is a pseudonym).
The fighter spoke in detail about his vision of the situation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Russian army.
- Mobilization. In his opinion, it is conducted incorrectly. Recruits are sent to the front who have never been trained, and they are often over 50 years old and with a whole bunch of diseases.
- No rotation. The soldier says that “the same brigades” are fighting at the front, and people are not taken out of the front line for six months or more. Whereas by Western standards, they can be kept in a war zone for no more than three months.
- Behavior of mid-and high-level commanders. According to Proshinsky, many of them are trying to arrange a “mini-Stalingrad” on the positions, forcing them to go into frontal assaults on well-fortified Russian positions.
- The Russian Army began to fight better.
- Proshinsky believes that Russia has not yet used much of what it has against Ukraine.
The soldier thinks that the Russians will not move from their positions and that a stalemate peace like in Korea would be the end result.
UAF in real dire times— recruiting the elderly, poor logistics, engaging the enemy at inopportune times, and Russia has yet to waver
I believe that to be wrong. Russia’s aim is to liberate at least the four regions that it has claimed for itself. For political reasons it can not stop before that is done.
Should the Ukraine continue to fight after that, Russia is likely to set new aims and take more land.
more editorializing, but it doesnt seem unreasonable. i thought Russia would stick to its original goal of Donetsk and Luhansk, but if Zaporizhzhia and Kherson are receptive to Russian governance, it would be foolish for Russia to give them up
They’ll just drum up some other backwards ass excuse to throw more money at neo-nazis in Ukraine. This war is never going to end anytime soon and frankly your average burger is literally a world away and views it as team sports.
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Show me one place the Ukronazis broke through even the first line of Russian defences. I’ll wait, dorks.
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Why don’t you show up and defend your beliefs in the free marketplace of democracy instead of stuffing your complaints in the authoritarian Stalinist mods mailbox?
“Mods! mods! Delete this tankie at once.”
They think this is Reddit.
Looks like Amadeus Bordiga has an account on the programming instance.
support of human rights violations
Hmm maybe we should just report every pro USA comment as this?
Please don’t
Ok 😔
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Double whammy from @natecox@programming.dev stuffing more hatemail in the modbox. The quicker you either 1) show up and actually try and prove why you’re right and the article is wrong. or 2) stop making false mod reports over opinions you disagree with, the quicker you’ll stop getting pinged for wasting everyone’s time.
@natecox@programming.dev are you really going to keep replying to me via mod reports? Are you really that scared of saying hello or incapable of walking away from an unwinnable event?
@natecox@programming.dev this is getting boring, knock off filling my report box with your replies and we’ll call it even.
Alright @natecox@programming.dev you decided to keep going, not me.
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Sees tankies
OMG I DIDN’T KNOW HEXBEARS WAS ACTUALLY TANKIES
This is 100% going to get y’all defederated haha I love it
Don’t worry guys, I hear they’re bringing in some dude called Steiner to start another counter-offensive, everything’s still good 👍
Disgusting waste of lives.
All of this should have fucking ended but Boris Johnson fucked it all. Fuck him and fuck all the liberals that have been spewing bloodthirsty vile shit calling for tens of thousands of lives to be wasted in a fucking meatgrinder for some lines on a map. I do not give a fuck about the Ukrainian state, I do not give a fuck about the Russian state. Lines on a map are not people.
These people deserved better than bloodthirsty assholes.
Using a combined arms NATO style attack tactic for the counter offensive when Ukraine basically has no air force was certainly a very smart and good idea with no potential problems. Especially when attacking entrenched and mined Russian positions. Great idea from the NATO military commander failsons
I can only imagine the number of dead and wounded Ukrainian soldiers. This didn’t need to happen.
My friend’s Ukrainian husband just got out, but he’s still in some sort of family visa limbo. He’s story from the last two years is just trauma laden with trauma.
So much fucking senseless death and human tragedy just so the US Empire can stave off its encroaching decay a few years more.
And the ironic part is, if anything, this whole event has only accelerated its demise.
The sick old man of the world.
Even more ironic that the supposed ruler of the empire can’t even comprehend what’s happening because he’s a demented old fuck.
I mean Hitler was probably on as many drugs and zonked out like ol’ Joe after Kursk 1943 (read “Blitzed”, it’s so great) but a dying empire sending 1,000s to their death in minefields or a braindead 80-year old zombie… that’s gotta be a first, right?
Even more ironic that the supposed ruler of the empire can’t even comprehend what’s happening because he’s a demented old fuck.
putin is losing in iraq
See also: the war on terror.
The MIC raked in the dough while the USA suffered several domestic setbacks that they still haven’t recovered from. Good job, guyz!
According to Proshinsky, many of them are trying to arrange a “mini-Stalingrad” on the positions, forcing them to go into frontal assaults on well-fortified Russian positions.
Its not that I’m surprised at this point when anticommunist propaganda turns out to be projection, it’s more that im still surprised at how often it pops up
NYT is running an article today saying they are making progress https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/12/world/europe/russia-ukraine-war.html so I am not sure about western media changing course.
That’s it?
THAT’S the counteroffensive?
THAT WAS JUST THE BATTLE OF THE SOMME!
Its just so much fucking blood spilled.
I can’t get over how many people are throwing their lives away over some dipshits in their respective capitals putting new lines on a map. Nightmarish to see Ukrainians and Russians alike march to their deaths over this shit.
some Ukrainians are being coerced into serving. libs will call me a Russian bot for this, but i dont think the same can be said for Russia. they have enough active military personnel to avoid drafting; they havent even deployed them all
but yeah, war is depressing. hopefully before we go extinct we will achieve communism and end war
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You’re right of course but it’s a significant degree of coercion away from the way Ukrainian recruiters were grabbing people on the street and throwing them in vans.
Probably hundreds of thousands of people dead for the ambitions of a handful of gerontocrat crooks and their cronies.
If you want a really bad thought imagine what the Red Army soldiers from WWII would think finding out that Ukraine and Russia were at war and Banderites had taken control of the government and were leading the charge?
stalin shouldn’t have stopped at berlin
i don’t understand, its been going bad the entire time, why admit it now? its been 18 months and thousands of lives, wtf
I think that some very pro-Ukraine voices (especially in the media and Dem establishment) are angry that this counteroffensive is not going well… but they aren’t willing to admit that NATO forced Ukraine into it, so they have to just bemoan how bad it is going. Ukraine made a deal with Russia very early into the war, but as soon as NATO found out about it, Boris Johnson arrived in Ukraine for a completely unscheduled visit and told Ukrainian officials that we will fuck them up (their positions in the government and their future employment prospects) if they don’t cancel the deal. The same with this counteroffensive, we told them to do it.
Two other bits on the main page, for context of who it writing at this domain:
The judicial case against Hunter Biden will stay alive.
That increases the possibility that Joe Biden will have to answer questions about his own corrupt dealings related to Hunter Biden’s businesses.
^^ That’s currently in the top article.
And then another has this headline:
World Bank Group Goes Woke
oh no! the biden family corruption is being investigated! that was supposed to stay hidden and unpunished! trump is a criminal and so is biden, both are detestable crooks.
and yeah, the world bank article looks bad if you only read the title. but if you actually read the content, the title is a joke to point at the hypocrisy in the blatant discriminatory lending practices of the world bank
Please. PLEASE. I don’t give a shit about Joe and Hunter’s grift in Ukraine, good on them, get that bread, It would just be so so so fucking satisfying to watch the Libs tie themselves in knots trying to avoid the cognitive dissonance of admitting that their guy was up to his ears in corruption.
Ah yes, the reputable source of information that is moonofalabama.org. Top tier reporting, folks
MoA is better sourced w more relevant citations than whatever propaganda outlet you frequent. how abt you provide evidence to refute some of these claims instead of crying that im not posting CNN links