Imagine this: you’ve “dated” 600 people in San Fransisco without having typed a word to any of them. Instead, a busy little bot has completed the mindless ‘getting-to-know-you’ chatter on your behalf, and has told you which people you should actually get off the couch to meet.

The memes are becoming real. omori-manic

  • pooh [she/her, love/loves]@hexbear.net
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    In 2021, the AI companion app Replika came under scrutiny after authorities in the U.K. saw a 19-year-old man planning to assassinate the Queen after he was encouraged by an AI girlfriend built on the app.

    Critical support?

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    This is just the matching algorithm OK Cupid and older dating sites used to. “The AI went on 600 dates” is just some marketing bullshit. They aren’t going to sim anything, just give people the top 3 percentage matches and pretend it’s better because the AI did it.

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      Yours is the realistic answer but give me the lathe for a second. If they were going to actually simulate dates and have any insinuation of it being meaningful they could probably claim they need access to all of your text messages and chats to teach the AI your voice and personality. It would be an excuse for a phenomenal level of data mining. If it didn’t turn everyone off with its overreach.

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      they’ll probably take information representing some aggregation of interactions for a user and make some scoring model that tries to learn from pairs of user data and outcomes (in terms of whether they successfully dated or whatever you do on these apps). 100% marketing bullshit, doing LLM inference for something like this would have costs spiral out of control FAST. But a scoring model is cheap, they have the data to make one, and it isn’t really all that innovative either.

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    This reminds me of a concept from Eclipse Phase. The normal mode of travel in the solar system is to upload your mind as data and squirt it across space to a receiving ship or station where you’re download and either instanced as software or written in to a meat or cybernetic brain. then you do your business, upload as data, and get transmitted home (don’t ask about continuity of consciousness it makes people very uncomfortable). If you just need to ask some quick questions or perform very limited functions, especially if you suspect someone could intercept your mind, crack the encryption, and sift through your brain you might send a severely pruned down “fork” of yourself that has been edited to only have specific knowledge and expertise. Depending on how much pruning you do the fork could be a nearly full copy of yourself with a few parts missing or a sub-sentient expert system that can only perform specific tasks. Regardless, the bandwidth costs are cheaper and the risk of being intercepted and wrung out for information is less.

    Also, this is how OkCupid used to work, but with buzzwords. OKC just asked you a bunch of quiz questions and their importance to you, then matched you with people with similar values and beliefs. Worked great. No swiping, no AI. It still sucked, but it sucked and order of magnitude less than modern skinner box dating sites.

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        Oh it’s horrific in Eclipse Phase. What happens when you turn your mind in to a stream of ones and zeroes while nanites scrub you out of the brain you were in? Is whatever is downloaded at the other end really you? What if your transmission is corrupted in transit? What will be left of you? What if someone intercepts your transmission, instances a copy of you, hacks in to your mind and changes your personality, then sends the modified you to the end destination with no one the wiser? Eclipse Phase is very emphatically a cosmic horror story.

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          Altered Carbon has a lot of the same weird issues. although I enjoyed it, it kinda handwaves over them

          EDIT: I don’t remember well enough, I think the problems are fundamental to transfer of consciousness and fwiw you have to make some choices to bridge those contradictions. I’ll have to re-read it to articulate it, so I’m striking it.

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              I’ve only read the first book, I should re-read it but I remember having some problems with the way the backups worked. good story though

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                  Yeah i’m not sure if “losing continuity of consciousness means you died” is a cultural thing that can change or what. Bc people do lose continuity all the time when they black out, go under for surgery, get concussed, and so forth. Subjectively when you come to you feel like you’re the same person and continuity is maintained, and people don’t perceive themselves to have died. But is the mind that boots up after surgery the same mind that was shut down? It gives me the willies.

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      Just don’t think of your fork’s human rights when “pruning” it.

      Eclipse Phase is so cool I wish the system was better.

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    zizek thing about how your chatbot will date someone else’s chatbot for you and when you want to have sex the bots will have sex for you and you two will just be friends who know nothing about the other or something

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    So the only app I even get matches on consistently is going to put yet more barriers in between me and other people and pretend it’s a feature

    Not sure why I bother with the apps then

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    Hmmh, this is one of the ones I was thinking of to try getting some friends. Kinda got tired of spending the entirety of my 20s in self-imposed isolation because I loathe and am terrified of other human beings

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    Ok what other ways do we have to make dating even more miserable and impossible? People sure aren’t miserable and lonely enough we need to get out top scientists on this

    :(