Saw this today, and … well, I’m not going to be so forgiving to people suggesting to vote Third Party rather than vote for Biden. If Trump wants me to do something, and you want me to do that same something, that tells me you’re aligned with Trump.

  • snooggums@midwest.social
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    7
    ·
    3 months ago

    The reporter is the third party who confirms the evidence, either by finding corroboration with another source or who knows enough about the source to know if they could have that knowledge.

    This does require reporter to be trustworthy, but that is true about anyone who provides evidence.

    • wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      12
      ·
      3 months ago

      That is not true of anyone who provides evidence in the sense that non anonymous sources can be verified by third parties. That’s precisely why anonymous sources are considered the bottom of the barrel of journalism.

      • snooggums@midwest.social
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        6
        ·
        3 months ago

        How do you trust the third parties when they say they verified something that can’t be replicated in a lab, like on the authenticity of an email?

        Why doesn’t that criteria apply to journalists?

        • wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          8
          ·
          edit-2
          3 months ago

          Huh, I don’t trust the authenticity of an email until I’ve seen some cryptographic proof (like DKIM, GPG, S/MIME)

          That criteria totally does apply to journalists.

            • wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              arrow-down
              6
              ·
              edit-2
              3 months ago

              WikiLeaks, for example, publishes all such headers. If memory serves some of the Panama papers were similarly authenticated.

              • snooggums@midwest.social
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                4
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                3 months ago

                So you trust wikikeaks published the original headers?

                Did you personally verify the headers?

                Why do you trust wikileaks and the people who verified the headers, but not reporters?

                • wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  arrow-down
                  6
                  ·
                  edit-2
                  3 months ago

                  I don’t trust WikiLeaks, I trust the cryptography behind DKIM. I did in fact verify some of those cryptographic signatures myself. And you can too if you’d like, because the source material was published in full.