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      Jewish comrades also burn the Zionist rag

      If seeing the symbol of colonization and genocide destroyed brings you discomfort you need to work on yourself to disassociate Judaism from Israel/Zionism, because that means you subconsciously conflate them and have given into Zionist brainworms

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        If seeing the symbol of colonization and genocide destroyed brings you discomfort you need to work on yourself to disassociate Judaism from Israel/Zionism, because that means you subconsciously conflate them and have given into Zionist brainworms

        No, the issue was clearly expressed to be the burning of the Star of David within the flag. “Zionist brainworms” fuck off.

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          Otherwise stated: Zionists put a Star of David there to shield themselves from criticism and attack, and you are agreeing with them and their conflation that it is a valid shield. You agree that burning a Zionist flag is anti-Semitic, which means you have buckled to their logic and given in to their narrative

          I am filled with joy and hope when I see the Zionist rag in flames. If that makes you instead fearful and sad, that’s a you problem not a me problem because you have let Zionists colonize your mind

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            No I am not, and I am not agreeing that burning the Zionist flag is antisemitic. What I’m saying is that the imagery of burning the Star of David itself on an emote being uncomfortable to some Jewish users does not mean they have “Zionist brainworms.” You can’t completely disassociate when it’s the exact same symbol.

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              Burning a Zionist flag isn’t anti-Semitic. The image of burning a Zionist flag is anti-semitic.

              You have to realize how twisted and incoherent your logic is, doing mental gymnastics to defend an indefensible mod decision made on a whim.

              ukkk

              This is a burning cross, a Christian symbol. Why does Israel receive special protections for their symbols that nobody else does? Because there is a partial acceptance of Zionist exceptionalism.

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                Your dishonest summary is definitely twisted. I never said the image was antisemitic, I said shaming Jewish users for being uncomfortable with the image of the burning of the Star of David and saying they have “Zionist brainworms” is wrong since it’s the same exact symbol regardless of context, and again I don’t think it’s wrong to burn the flag of Israel as protest against the Zionist regime. The mod decision was supported by comments by several Jewish users expressing their discomfort with the image being made into an emote, so hardly made “on a whim.”

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                  Only person being dishonest and squirrellly here is you. “It’s not antisemitic but we won’t do it because Jews feel uncomfortable” nonsense doesn’t make any sense. It’s either anti-Semitic or not. If it is not anti-Semitic certain people arbitrarily feeling “uncomfortable” doesn’t matter and shouldn’t even be discussed, it’s not relevant.

                  Jews at Harvard are made uncomfortable by pro-Palestine rallies and “to the river from the sea”. Should they be stopped? It’s the same logic in microcosm. This entire argument is literally verbatim the “to the river from the sea” discourse regurgitated.

                  It’s hilarious that libs on hexbear begin reproducing Zionist narratives all on their own.

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                    Not reproducing Zionist narratives, and the Harvard comparison is so weasley; you are so dishonest it’s absurd. The whole point of the original discussion was you shaming Jewish users for being uncomfortable with the imagery, now it doesn’t matter and shouldn’t be discussed. Fine, I guess I’m talking to a different person.

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              What I’m saying is that the imagery of burning the Star of David itself on an emote being uncomfortable to some Jewish users does not mean they have “Zionist brainworms.”

              It does though.

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        Oh fuck off with this, by this logic non-Jews also cannot criticize Israel at all because you are aware the mainstream position is that any criticism of Zionism is anti-Semitic and only Jews can do it. You agree with the position of CNN on this 😂 it’s frankly an absurd position to hold that Israel should be abolished but the symbol of Israel is sacred and deserves protections from non-Jews.

        I’m a Muslim hexbear and I think every Zionist flag on earth should be destroyed and desecrated, just like Israel should be destroyed.

        Deal with it and ban me for being anti-Semitic if you think otherwise, just know that Hezbollah, Hamas, Houthis all agree with me not you.

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              I am living in the real world doing actual organizing work where nobody knows about this place or gives a fuck whether or not we have a burning Israel flag emoji.

              touch-grass

              The fact is that some users here expressed discomfort with having an image of a burning star of david in any form and we honored that.

              Nobody is stopping you from saying death to israel or redacted the Zionists.

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                The touch grass emoji makes me uncomfortable and feel bad. Remove it now. Or do my Muslim and Disabled feelings not matter to you as much as Jewish feelings?

                You buckle to incoherent unprincipled emotional demands, so do it. Or are you going to enforce yet another hypocritical double standard?