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    Jewish comrades also burn the Zionist rag

    If seeing the symbol of colonization and genocide destroyed brings you discomfort you need to work on yourself to disassociate Judaism from Israel/Zionism, because that means you subconsciously conflate them and have given into Zionist brainworms

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      If seeing the symbol of colonization and genocide destroyed brings you discomfort you need to work on yourself to disassociate Judaism from Israel/Zionism, because that means you subconsciously conflate them and have given into Zionist brainworms

      No, the issue was clearly expressed to be the burning of the Star of David within the flag. “Zionist brainworms” fuck off.

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        Otherwise stated: Zionists put a Star of David there to shield themselves from criticism and attack, and you are agreeing with them and their conflation that it is a valid shield. You agree that burning a Zionist flag is anti-Semitic, which means you have buckled to their logic and given in to their narrative

        I am filled with joy and hope when I see the Zionist rag in flames. If that makes you instead fearful and sad, that’s a you problem not a me problem because you have let Zionists colonize your mind

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          No I am not, and I am not agreeing that burning the Zionist flag is antisemitic. What I’m saying is that the imagery of burning the Star of David itself on an emote being uncomfortable to some Jewish users does not mean they have “Zionist brainworms.” You can’t completely disassociate when it’s the exact same symbol.

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            Burning a Zionist flag isn’t anti-Semitic. The image of burning a Zionist flag is anti-semitic.

            You have to realize how twisted and incoherent your logic is, doing mental gymnastics to defend an indefensible mod decision made on a whim.

            ukkk

            This is a burning cross, a Christian symbol. Why does Israel receive special protections for their symbols that nobody else does? Because there is a partial acceptance of Zionist exceptionalism.

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              Your dishonest summary is definitely twisted. I never said the image was antisemitic, I said shaming Jewish users for being uncomfortable with the image of the burning of the Star of David and saying they have “Zionist brainworms” is wrong since it’s the same exact symbol regardless of context, and again I don’t think it’s wrong to burn the flag of Israel as protest against the Zionist regime. The mod decision was supported by comments by several Jewish users expressing their discomfort with the image being made into an emote, so hardly made “on a whim.”

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                Only person being dishonest and squirrellly here is you. “It’s not antisemitic but we won’t do it because Jews feel uncomfortable” nonsense doesn’t make any sense. It’s either anti-Semitic or not. If it is not anti-Semitic certain people arbitrarily feeling “uncomfortable” doesn’t matter and shouldn’t even be discussed, it’s not relevant.

                Jews at Harvard are made uncomfortable by pro-Palestine rallies and “to the river from the sea”. Should they be stopped? It’s the same logic in microcosm. This entire argument is literally verbatim the “to the river from the sea” discourse regurgitated.

                It’s hilarious that libs on hexbear begin reproducing Zionist narratives all on their own.

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                  Not reproducing Zionist narratives, and the Harvard comparison is so weasley; you are so dishonest it’s absurd. The whole point of the original discussion was you shaming Jewish users for being uncomfortable with the imagery, now it doesn’t matter and shouldn’t be discussed. Fine, I guess I’m talking to a different person.

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                    The burning Zionist flag should be added alongside the burning Russian flag and American flag and UK flag. As long as it isn’t there, the hypocrisy of mods should be mentioned and any BS Zionist-parallel arguments about “feelings” should be ignored

                    The Harvard example is perfectly apt. You are attempting to use “Jews feel uncomfortable” to shut down speech and retreat from principles, to enforce a double standard and exception for Israel that nobody else on Earth gets. You are implying it is anti-Semitic but when pressed dodge and just say it’s just a bad vibe or something. If it’s just a bad vibe and not actually anti-Semitic, then just add it and be done because a lot of users here actually think it’s a very good vibe (which is why the subject keeps coming up again, because it’s an open wound of hypocrisy that flares up whenever Israel does something particularly heinous)

                    It’s hilarious that again, you are recreating Zionist methods of word games and “Jewish feelings” to prop up your bullshit special exemptions. It’s amazing how you don’t see how you are just Alan Dershowitz right now

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            What I’m saying is that the imagery of burning the Star of David itself on an emote being uncomfortable to some Jewish users does not mean they have “Zionist brainworms.”

            It does though.