• circuitfarmer@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Win what? Ultimately no one wins if we can’t discuss areas for improvement even within one’s own party.

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        8 months ago

        Right, but winning an election where your own party already required you to shut up about anything where you disagree – doesn’t seem like a win?

        I think there’s this idea that if we keep the Dems in power, then we’ll hit a point where we can return to discussion and fix issues within the party. But that’s a false idea. There will always be an opponent, and the idea that we should all fall in line just to avoid fascism is, well, misguided at best – because it’s also fascism. We’re already setting a precedent within the party to avoid dissidence. That’s wild.

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      8 months ago

      With first past the post voting, a “win” is very simply avoiding the biggest loss.

      Push and scream and lobby as much as you like, but at the end of the day, Biden only needs to be marginally less psychotic than Trump for him to be the preferred candidate.

      The other side will fall in line behind Trump. So what choice is there?