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        I’m autistic, I get called that enough to use it. Nice argument though, my point is invalid because I said a word you don’t like, very cool. Almost as cool as how you singled me out for using a slur that applies to me while ignoring the thread full of assholes making fun of people for being disabled. I’ll still delete bc it’s against the rules ig (nvm mod got to it first)

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          Eh i removed mine too. I was being a bit tongue in cheek and you have a good point. I’m neurodivergent as well, and my dad suffered a traumatic brain injury when I was 7.

          I like to think most people here are piece of shit shaming. Trump is a piece of shit who happens to be obese and pretends that he isn’t. Abbott is a piece of shit who happens to be in a wheelchair. I think people are grabbing the low hanging fruit.

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            Ye, I understand the urge to go after low hanging fruit like that, especially on people like Trump who fatshame people all the time. As a queer person I don’t even mind people joking about Putin being gay for similar reasons (especially bc I’ve heard it actually really bothers him), but don’t take that as permission to do that around other gay people or anything, bc the general consensus is that gay people don’t want to hear straight people making fun of homosexuality, no matter the context. Same is true of how most fat people feel about fatshaming trump, or how most disabled people feel about the shit in this comment section. Most of the time that bigotry doesn’t even matter to the person being insulted, just the group being made into a punchline. Imo even calling them a hypocrite for stuff like that is fine. Trump’s called women fat and ugly, nothing wrong with pointing out how silly that is, as long as you’re not just calling him fat and ugly for its own sake

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              I think this is fair. I’m fat, queer, and disabled. My (neurodivergent) son calls me grandma and it’s funny because I know he means it lovingly. However, if my boss decided to do something similar, I’d spit in his eye. It’s a case-by-case basis.

              Make fun of Caitlyn Jenner for being a entitled, right-wing murderer? We’re good. Make fun of Caitlyn Jenner for being trans? We’ve got a problem.

              Who is saying it and the intention behind what they’re saying matters quite a bit.

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                I guess I’ve also learned over the years to be less sensitive. For example, I’m in recovery. I used to have a very serious problem with heroin, cocaine, etc. And I used to get very offended when people would joke about crackhead, junkies, etc. I’d correct them and try to make them feel bad. But now I realize that most people don’t have malice in their hearts. Just like most people know someone who is fat or queer, most people probably also know someone with a substance abuse problem. So I’ve learned to appreciate the humor and let it go. Crackheads do some silly shit after all, and I’m sure I was no different in those days.

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      The internet edgelords aren’t going to agree with you, but you’re 100% right. Conservatives will insist they’re not racist while talking about how X minority can’t speak right, liberals will insist they’re not ableist while literally joking about a disability rather than all his actual flaws. They’ve internalized that “racist/ableist” is a bad thing to be, but instead of thinking about how those issues manifest and steering clear, they just know they’re not bad, so they couldn’t possibly be the bad thing. It’s the same fundamental disassociation of the word from actions, just shifted once over toward the liberal end of the spectrum.

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      Removed, rule 3. I’d have allowed it until you hit the Jenner crack and calling other users cunts.

      “Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (perjorative, perjorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (perjorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect!”

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        Dang I was literally just about to edit that part out, fair enough. What was wrong with mentioning Caitlin Jenner? I was comparing transphobic remarks against her to the fatphobia in the comments, if I wrote it in a way that sounded transphobic I definitely didn’t mean to

        Edit just read what you actually said it was removed for, I assumed it was for the lib***d remark