• green_link@lemmy.world
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    wasn’t it also because the republicans decided to push to have the vote at 6pm, purposely didn’t tell democrats this, where they knew democrats would have gone home for the day and wouldn’t be around to participate?

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    Rep. Stansbury (D-NM) was not allowed to enter the building due to a car accident blocking traffic. She recorded a no vote once she was allowed access, and posted a press release explaining the situation on her website. This was not a vote for impeachment, but a vote to refer the articles to the judiciary committee. Stansbury takes NO aipac money, and is fully on board with impeaching Hegseth

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      Yeah, but you’re just supposed to read the headline and get disengaged from the party…

      Not actually find out what happened.

      /s

      I picked the first name and searched if they made a comment:

      https://www.instagram.com/p/DflU4LCu7Mm/

      Apparently Johnson rushed the vote and people didn’t even know it was happening or had a chance to vote. So multiple people who were trying to get to chambers from offices even didn’t have time.

      Edit:

      And the one calling fellow Dems “raggedy” takes AIPAC money…

      https://primarydemocrats.com/r/sydney-kamlager-dove-ca.html

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        Shouldn’t Democrats have been expecting this, though, and planned accordingly? Seems like Jeffries missed a big chance here.

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        Get out the flow chart

        Republican does bad thing > blame democrats for not stopping it

        About-to-retire Republican introduces articles of impeachment into an all-Republican congress months before it swings Democrat, Republican speaker rushes vote to ensure minority Democrats can’t vote, it gets stuck in procedural hell, blame Democrats.

        Literally only Stevens, who is effectively out of the party, has no valid reason for not voting.

        Lou Correa — California: Will do medical procedure soon, doctor won't allow travel.
        Frederica Wilson — Florida: The evening before, she was attending an inauguration ceremony of veteran homes in Florida.
        Steven Horsford — Nevada: Personal emergency. Submitted statement to the record afterwards. Seems to have attended a press conference earlier in the day, so something urgent must have come up in between.
        Julia Brownley — California: "As I and many of my colleagues were rushing to the floor to support Hegseth’s impeachment, Mike Johnson closed the vote before we could."
        Jonathan Jackson — Illinois: Traffic incident, registered his vote to the record afterwards.
        Laura Gillen — New York: Same as Jackson.
        Melanie Stansbury — New Mexico: Same as Jackson.
        Marilyn Strickland — Washington: Same as Jackson, "missed vote by one minute." Posted about impeaching Hegseth just hours before the vote.
        Brittany Pettersen — Colorado: "Denied the ability," probably same as Jackson. Has previously been voting just weeks after childbirth, so she is not the one who bails.
        Nancy Pelosi — California: Received lifetime award at a Veterans Day Celebration in her district.
        Haley Stevens — Michigan: "[H]ung out during votes in the Republicans' restricted room off the House floor."
        
        • grue@lemmy.world
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          About-to-retire Republican introduces articles of impeachment into an all-Republican congress months before it swings Democrat

          Massie also tried to impeach Hegseth earlier this year, before he lost his primary. His motives in this are genuine.

          (Johnson adjouned the House in order to prevent a vote on it back in September, so what happened just now was Massie reintroducing it literally the first chance he got.)

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          A good time to remind people that the reason each House representative has to represent so many people compared to when the system was designed…

          Is, and I shit you not, they couldn’t fit anymore chairs into that room.

          We’re decades past when requiring in person votes made sense. It should at least be able to be done remotely from an office in the home state, but really should be a transparent app.

          Their votes are public, we don’t have to worry about hacking because they can just say “that’s not how I voted”.

          There’s no reason to keep acting like it’s the 1800s, but we are.

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          How are you so sure when you can’t even get that representatives pronouns right?

          Like, did you just not click the link and assume it was a man, or intentionally misgendering?

          Or is it a reading comprehension fail and think that referred to Johnson?

          Just what are you even talking about?

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              Apparently Johnson rushed the vote and people didn’t even know it was happening

              Right…

              Johnson, the Speaker of the House, is the one that starts the vote. He rushed it.

              People didn’t know that it was happening, due to Johnson rushing it.

              That honestly wasn’t obvious?

              Do you comprehend it now?

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    The irony of Pelosi not voting against the secretary of war that has GUTTED the military so she could get an award from a Veteran’s group is horrific.

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    Haley Fucking Stevens missed it.

    I’ve been seeing her name way too much In the news lately aligning with republicans.

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    Well, you see, they only work half the year, and sometimes they don’t remember whether it’s a work day or just another day of trading stocks and accepting gifts and awards.

    It didn’t take long for the same old shit, did it? Two weeks

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      Not only has it only been one week since the US midterms, the newly elected reps aren’t even in office yet. Maybe learn how things work before slinging shit about something you clearly don’t understand.

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    I was waiting for someone to talk about this more in detail. All Democrats had to do was, literally, show up for work, and they could have moved the process along to get rid of the guy.

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      If every Democrat had shown up, Johnson would have held the vote open for hours until enough Republicans showed up to outvote them. Which would have happened, because Massie was the only Republican to vote for the measure.

      But even if by some fluke the vote had passed, we’d be in a much -worse- position, because the impeachment trial would be managed by Republicans and go before the Republican-majority Senate at a time when no one is paying attention. They’d just kill it like they did the Trump impeachments. Much better to wait until the new Congress next year so we can have a proper trial run by the new Democratic majority.

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      from what I’m reading they had a 2 day notice about when the vote would be. But on the other hand, Johnson cut off the vote early as they were trapped in traffic.

      So really it was a bipartisan effort, to fail.