• abuttandahalf@lemmy.ml
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    10 months ago

    The country supplying arms for genocide is bombing the only country that is trying to put an end to it. Yemen is imposing sanctions on Israel because it is committing genocide. Israel should be sanctioned by the entire world. The united states imposes debilitating deadly sanctions on countries for decades simply because they are not under its boot. The United States is evil and no amount of propaganda is going to change that.

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      The terrorist Houthis in Yemen, like Hamas, are backed by Iran–all three of which have individually called for the genocide and annihilation of Israel.

      Last week America gave the Houthis one final warning (after multiple others) to knock off their piracy and hijacking of international trade routes.

      Instead of widely heeding that warning, they made the very stupid decision to call America’s bluff. As the saying goes “fuck around, find out.”

      By the way, Iran is also an authoritarian Islamic theocracy in which women are subjugated, homosexuality is subject to persecution, and freedom of expression is nonexistent. They represent the model of a Muslim State under Sharia religious law, back Islamic terrorist groups in various parts of the world, are creating instability in the region (like the Oct 7 attacks and these trade route hijackings), and are generally not your friend no matter how much koolaid you drink or what medal you pick up in the mental gymnastics Olympics.

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        I guess Iran is just really committed to ending genocide then, huh?

        Well, if the shoe fits…

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        Not even hamas supports mass killings of Israelis. Hamas’s position is military resistance until Palestine is liberated. Subjugating people and standing in the way of their liberation puts you at danger of violence. The only one responsible for that is you. If Israelis chose to accept Palestinians as equals, payed reparations, and became Palestinian citizens, no one would have a problem with them. Israel of course is not willing to accept the Palestinians it ethnically cleansed and those it occupies because it is a fascist ethno state.

        Yemen, not “the houthis” is the only country in the world brave enough to stand up and fight against genocide in the face of the US. Iran backing the resistance is a point in it’s favor, not against it or the resistance. Iran is supporting antimperialism and it should be commended for doing so.

        Good job on ticking every box on the islamophobic white supremacist demonization checklist. You were propagandized well.

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          Subjugating people and standing in the way of their liberation puts you at danger of violence.

          Can’t tell if you’re trying to convince him or yourself.

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      The Houthis are attacking random ships, not Israeli ships. They were warned to cease attacking civilian ships on one of the largest trading routes in the world, and they didn’t. They fucked around and now they’re finding out.

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        First of all they’re not attacking ships. They are first warning them to reroute and not dock at Israel. When these ships refuse these orders they are boarding the ships and rerouting then without injuring anyone. Their operations are entirely reasonable.

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            Ansarallah has been very clear on the degree of association with Israel they consider sufficient for enforcement of the blockade.

            Again, COSCO is literally sailing ships through the Suez Canal.

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            If enforcing a total blockade in Bab Al mandeb will harm israeli and world capitalist economy enough to pressure them into ending the genocide, then it is the duty of all who are able to enforce it. As long as the genocide is being carried out Bab Al mandeb will be restricted. Yemen is the only country courageous and moral enough to put pressure where it counts to end the genocide. While the genocidal United States cynically uses “international law” to ensure its continuation. It’s the duty of all actors to do everything in their ability to stop genocide.

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              “Moral enough”, let’s not pretend they’re not thirsting for their own genocide, just read their catchphrase “God Is the Greatest, Death to America, Death to Israel, A Curse Upon the Jews, Victory to Islam”".

              Two wrongs does not make a right.

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                Because they associate the Zionist state with Judaism, a conflation that Israel itself works tirelessly to uphold. Zionism and israel must be extracted from Judaism like the cancer that they are so that Jewish people can return to being an integral part of Arab societies.

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          That doesn’t even pass the sniff test. That route is to the entire Mediterranean, from all points west of there.

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      Shooting at more civilians is not the way to do it.

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        Please provide a source for that claim that they are shooting civilians?

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          The crew on the container ships??? The ones they are launching missiles at

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          Look at the front page of literally any newspaper. Fuck off with unserious requests for sources.

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        Blockades are usually enforced by shooting at violating ships. And “shooting at more civilians isn’t the way to do it” then what is? Because there’s no world where “Just shut up and watch genocide happen” is the right answer.

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          What? Shooting civilians is never the answer. Did you really just advocate for that???

          2 wrongs don’t make a right.

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            Then what is the right answer? Because as long as they’re not directly shooting and killing people they’re well within their rights to do anything to stop the genocide of Gaza.

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              Not sure about rights, because they are shooting out of their territorial waters. But the “rights”, or perhaps “powers” of any nation only go as far as they can enforce them.

              So right now Yemen is indeed expressing itself, but they are finding out they don’t really have the power?

              Ultimately, protest is valid and what’s happening in Gaza is a genocide. But killing (or endangering) third parties who are just working a shift is always wrong.

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                AFAIK they didn’t kill anyone. They’re also pretty clear about their condition for allowing ships to pass.

                Shooting violators is just how you enforce a blockade; it’s what the British did against the Germans.

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                  And that’s a good thing, but if you attack ships with people on them, you’ve endangered them. Via some bad luck they could have killed people.

                  Also the waters are shared and highly contested, so the blockade isn’t clean.

                  And as I said ultimately you can only have a blockade if you can enforce it. Day by day it is becoming clear they cannot.

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          A blockade is an act of war. A blockade of the suez canal is an act of war against the 90% of the planet.

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        The Yemeni armed forces did not shoot or iniure anyone in their operations. The United States has killed 10 in its first operation and who knows how many it has killed in it’s recent bombing of civilian areas in Yemen.

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          Not for lack of trying. I said “shot at”

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            Wrong. They could have hurt people when they boarded ships but they did not. In fact they were entirely friendly and courteous towards the crew.

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              And the launched weapons?

              Are you really claiming the houthis have not launched any missiles or drones?

              When do you clock out?

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        Since they became its government lmfao. Since they were fighting against imperialist encroachment and control over their country. The American backed puppet government operating out of the Ritz Carlton in Riyadh certainly isn’t the recognized government of Yemen. It is not just Ansarallah in the Yemeni government, it’s multiple parties that were not previously allies now ruling as a unified central government. The alternative government is literally just the Saudi military. It has absolutely no popular support and it controls a steadily dimishing portion of the country.

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      No they aren’t. If they were only attacking Israel bound ships then you could make that argument. But they’ve de facto declared war on 90 percent of the planet.

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      You should probably get some perspective before you post bullshit like this.