Long story short, I have a desktop with Fedora, lovely, fast, sleek and surprisingly reliable for a near rolling distro (it failed me only once back around Fedora 34 or something where it nuked Grub). Tried to install on a 2012 i7 MacBook Air… what a slog!!! Surprisingly Ubuntu runs very smooth on it. I have been bothering all my friends for years about moving to Fedora (back then it was because I hated Unity) but now… I mean, I know that we are suppose to hate it for Snaps and what not but… Christ, it does run well! In fairness all my VMs are running DietPi (a slimmed version of Ubuntu) and coming back to the APT world feels like coming back home.

On the other end forcing myself to be on Fedora allows me to stay on the DNF world that is compatible with Amazon Linux etc (which I use for work), it has updated packages, it is nice and clean…. Argh, don’t know how to decide!

Thoughts?

I am not in the mood for Debian. I like the Mint approach but I am not a fan of slow rolling releases and also would like to keep myself as close as upstream as possible, the Debian version is the only one that seems reliable enough but, again, it is Debian, the packages are “old”. Pop Os and similar are two hops away from upstream and so I’d rather not.

Is Snap really that bad?

Edit: thank you all for sharing your experience !

  • actionjbone@sh.itjust.works
    333·
    11 months ago

    You’re not wrong, but there’s also value in exploring different ways to do similar things. That’s what’s great about Linux.

    Some of Canonical’s efforts may lead to failure, but that doesn’t mean they are a waste.

    • nossaquesapao
      16·
      11 months ago

      One thing is to explore different ways to do things, like many projects do, but ubuntu goes further and FORCES people to use their experiments, as if they’re some sort of testing ground, not as if they’re the most used family of linux distros and the one a lot of people rely on.

      Edit: Sorry if my tone was excessive, I think I’m getting grumpy with age.

      • actionjbone@sh.itjust.works
        6·
        11 months ago

        Haha, I get it. No offense taken.

        I don’t disagree. But for better or worse, most people don’t think that much about their software.

        Folks like us who do? We can make informed decisions.

        Folks who don’t? Canonical’s experiments are probably still better than dealing with Windows 11 or macOS.

      • Auli@lemmy.caEnglish
        1·
        11 months ago

        Like snaps. They are different then flatpaks. You can use them for cli apps don’t think flatpaks can be.

        • kenopsik@lemm.ee
          5·
          11 months ago

          Flatpaks can also be used to run CLI programs, but it requires using flatpak run instead of using the apps standard CLI command. But you can create an alias and should work mostly the same way.

          For example, I have neovim on my Debian laptop via flatpak. So in order to run it, you have to do

          flatpak run io.neovim.nvim

          You can create an alias for that command

          alias nvim='flatpak run io.neovim.nvim'

          And then you can use the nvim command as normal