• Kayn@dormi.zone
    6·
    1 year ago

    I always enjoy reading the “This week in KDE” posts.

    I hope we eventually get the blue light filter on Plasma in Wayland.

    Edit: with Nvidia! I hope we get the blue light filter on Plasma in Wayland with Nvidia!

    • Molecular0079@lemmy.world
      3·
      1 year ago

      I hope we eventually get the blue light filter on Plasma in Wayland.

      Is this different from Night Shift? I thought that was already working in Wayland (unless you mean Nvidia).

    • KDE@floss.socialOP
      0·
      1 year ago

      @HKayn The blue light filter is a built in feature in Plasma Wayland for a long time (it was even for some time a Wayland exclusive feature). Search for “Night color” in the system settings, you don’t even need to install a third party app anymore.

      • Kayn@dormi.zone
        2·
        1 year ago

        I was referring to the fact that Night Color currently doesn’t work on Wayland with an Nvidia card.

        • ChristianWS
          51·
          1 year ago

          We are talking about CSD, are we not?

          There are quite a number of DEs using CSD, and a couple of them even feature a more “traditional” layout with a button panel and left side app menu.

          While some folks like it, at this point one of the defining features of Plasma is the fact that it stands out by not using Server Side Decorations, or GTK for that matter.

          Besides, CSD is ugly

          • Fabian (Bocchi) 🏳️‍🌈@mstdn.social
            2·
            1 year ago

            @ChristianWS CSD can just look like the normal Window+Decoration.

            My point is however that KDE can use it to at least put something to the CSD, like the app-menu if visible. Different apps would find different purposes for it and there shouldnt be a hard requirement for it, but optional feature to use for the devs.

            CSD is just a ugly as you make it to be. In my opinion SSD is nowadays very out of place, vertical wasted space.

            • ChristianWS
              41·
              1 year ago

              Not really following what you mean.

              The moment you allow CSD, apps can and will put whatever they want on there, leading to wildly inconsistency in the number of things there.

              CSD will always looks weird cause it takes too much vertical space. It will never look as good as a normal Title Bar, which can be controlled by the server.

              You also lose draggable space, as now buttons are taking space.

              • Fabian (Bocchi) 🏳️‍🌈@mstdn.social
                4·
                1 year ago

                @ChristianWS It’s not the app that does this. Developer do this, they do this because they think it’s good. The KDE does have a nice visual design group (I was once part of it, So I know :P). It would be possible to define a design guide to follow so apps won’t look out of place, while still are able to make use of CSD.
                Plasma doesnt need to look like GNOMEs implementation of a CSD. The visuals are a completely different thing. The technology is the important part at first.

                • ChristianWS
                  41·
                  1 year ago

                  Design follows technology and vice-versa. Once you allow devs to use CSD they can and will use that space to put buttons on it, and that inevitably leads to inconsistency between apps, because they will never share the same amount of buttons or be divided by the same amount of panels.

                  CSD is a Pandora’s box that is best left unopened.

              • Alex 🇮🇹 💛 🇷🇺@pkm.social
                1·
                1 year ago

                As shown by Latte Dock’s Window Buttons widget, apps can display window controls that follow the window decoration theme.

                And in GNOME apps follow some guidelines that include how header bars should be.

                KDE apps do the same for everything but the titlebar that is drawn by KWin. If they are consistent with their content, I don’t see why they wouldn’t stay consistent when making the titlebar/window controls their own responsability.

                • ChristianWS
                  1·
                  1 year ago

                  I don’t understand the Latte Dock argument.

                  And I was having GNOME in mind as the example of the inconsistency natural to CSD.