The meme has been liked nearly 9,000 times and shared 2,400 times as of Monday. In reaction to Mr Trump’s repost, journalist Aaron Rupar sarcastically wrote on Twitter: “rubbing my last 2 brain cells together as I try to remember who ran the government on January 6.”
The former president shared the meme despite a House committee that investigated January 6 declaring Mr Trump the “central cause” of the day’s events. “None of the events of January 6th would have happened without him,” the House panel wrote in its final report.
Does that technically count as a confession?
Not technically, that is a confession.
I mean, technically, yeah… if by “the Government” you mean “the President”.
From tweeting on December 19th: “Big protest in D.C. on January 6th. Be there! Will be wild!”
To the actual speech that day demanding they take back the government and that he would march with them…
https://www.npr.org/2021/02/10/966396848/read-trumps-jan-6-speech-a-key-part-of-impeachment-trial
“Because you’ll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength and you have to be strong. We have come to demand that Congress do the right thing and only count the electors who have been lawfully slated, lawfully slated.”
or:
“And we fight. We fight like hell. And if you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore.”
ending with:
"We’re going to try and give them the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country.
So let’s walk down Pennsylvania Avenue."
So… Trump lured everyone there 1/2 a month ahead of time, gave a speech telling everyone that you have to be strong and fight or you won’t have a country anymore, then turned everyone loose on Congress…
“bUt It WaS ThE GOveRnMenT!!”
But, can anyone ever really prove that Trump was the president?
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Yeah! Was he Donald Trump – the person – president? Or was it “Donald Trump” the legal entity? Is his name capitalized on the documents? Was his presidency valid under maritime law?
That’d explain why he’s so into birth/berth certificates. Then there’s this photo:
Gold fringes!
Gold fringes on the flag of the country “Donald Trump” was president of? Damn it! We’ve been bamboozled! We aren’t even living in the real United States! We were the sheeple all along, just like they were trying to tell us!
His name is an anagram for “L pond mud rat”. That park is only about 2 hours from D.C., maybe there’s a clue to be uncovered there. Going to need some more yarn and pushpins for my bulletin board to put it all together and it could just be an old rant dump.
Reminder that Steve Bannon frankly confessed Trump’s Start the Steal conspiracy plans to a group of Trump insiders before the election.
https://www.npr.org/2022/07/22/1112138665/jan-6-committee-hearing-transcript
…audio from Trump advisor, Steve Bannon, surfaced from October 31st, 2020, just a few days before the Presidential election.
Let’s listen. [Begin Videotape]
STEVE BANNON: And what Trump’s going to do is declare victory, right? He’s going to declare victory, but that doesn’t mean he’s a winner. He’s just gonna say he’s a winner. The Democrats — more of our people vote early that count. Theirs vote in mail. And so they’re going to have a natural disadvantage and Trump’s going to take advantage — that’s our strategy.
He’s gonna declare himself a winner. So when you wake up Wednesday morning, it’s going to be a firestorm. Also — also if Trump is — if Trump is losing by 10 or 11:00 at night, it’s going to be even crazier. Because he’s gonna sit right there and say they stole it. If Biden’s wining, Trump is going to do some crazy shit.
There are two wolves inside trump. One wolf is a goddamn idiot. The other wolf is an malignant narcissist. Both are chewing on the rotting carcass of his brain.
The guy raped E Jean Carroll and his cult worshipers don’t care.
I find it hard to imagine she’s the only one. Given what he himself has said regarding attractive women, about interacting with women he’s attracted to, etc. I’m not going to be surprised at all if more people come forward with allegations at some point
Holy crap. There’ve been so many scandals surrounding trump I entirely forgot he had that many rape allegations back in 2016
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The most generous interpretation I can think of is that he was talking about the “deep state”, some sort of hidden conspiracy of government workers working against him… by getting Trump himself to support this massive rally that everyone knew was going to turn violent and getting him to use incendiary language that would get people riled up, then also getting him to delay calling in help for as long as possible and even going so far as to get his Secret Service agents to refuse to drive him back to the rioters after he wanted to go back. Either this deep state is super nefarious and tricky… or Trump is just easily manipulated.
Its always news worthy when Trump tells the truth
Well, keep in mind how much footage there was of the capitol police letting “rioters” in and escorting them throughout the building as if they were on tour. I remember reading that there were opportunities to shore up the area out of concern there would be riots, since it was fairly obvious that there was going to be discontent, but the democrats declined.
I will make the standard disavowal that the riots shouldn’t have happened, and those involved should be charged and prosecuted accordingly. But Trump very specifically said to protest peacefully during his speech that day.
My take on all of this has always been that the establishment hates Trump, sees him as a legitimate threat to their way of doing business, and have always exaggerated and highlighted anything they could to make him look like the most evil and incompetent person possible. I don’t think you could neutrally look at all the evidence and think otherwise. I was a Democrat supporter before Trump came along. When I saw how united and unfair the portrayal of the man was by democrats and mass media, I realized the extent of corruption in the system, and more was slowly revealed over the next decade.
They want you to hate anyone who would upset the status quo. It’s the same thing they did to Tulsi Gabbard. Anyone who is anti-war, pro-America, and is for populism and against globalism. Just watch for yourself. These people get fat off of selling Americans out to foreign interests and by feeding the war machine. They can’t do that if we stop playing world police and start focusing on initiatives that improve the value of local labor. It requires us to rip up free trade deals and to stop funding military and PMCs, where a lot of elites make big money. That’s why populists get shut out.
Jan 6 was a handful of people doing something stupid. They’ve turned it into a giant cross to lay on the entire moderate and conservative voter base. If you think that’s reasonable, you’re being tribal, not rational.
Well said. I’m not exactly fan of Trump, but it’s abundantly clear the establishment hates him. Every news outlet and social media campaign paints him negatively no matter what he does. Kamala Harris said she would not take the Covid shot because at that point it was associated with Trump, and we all saw how that changed after they took the Presidency. Every person they show supporting him is portrayed as either a dumb hillbilly and a white supremacist. It’s cartoonish, and for the established circles of power to make such over-the-top propaganda is a dead giveaway more than anything else that they want him gone.
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It’s a little more complicated than that.
Please do elaborate.
By saying it is more complicated, my intent wasn’t to absolve Trump of responsibility but to suggest that other government actors influenced the events of that day. Namely, FBI instigators encouraging violence, Capitol Police deaths being falsely attributed to happening during the riots, there not being enough security at the Capitol, Capitol Police waving in protestors, etc. It was his rally and he played a very integral and important part but I contend it was more complicated than “Trump said violently enter the Capitol” or “other government actors are responsible and not Trump”. In other words, Trump was an irresponsible dumbass but there are definitely other forces who want to make sure Trump will never be president again.
I don’t think anyone is arguing that it is 100% all Trump’s fault. We know there are countless people under him in our society that aided. Did these people do this to make him look bad? It is very possible in this wide and wackey world. Though, I would conjecture a lot of those who “followed orders” on that day were doing so at the behest of Trump. I have no idea why I cannot see these replies on Connect but I can’t.
Yeah, can’t argue with anything you said. Trump is the king of chaos.
I don’t think it is lol. It’s a rally he and his proponents called for, organized, and sought supporters for, specifically to halt the election process. Whether or not it was successful doesn’t matter; I’d still get charged for robbery whether I stole money or not. It was govt supported; it was his rally, the sitting president. To me, the point was for it to be violent and messy, preventing the legal counting of votes, and giving him time to build a legal case for martial law or some other two-ply defense while he called more AGs and state officials to grift for votes to be “found” or valid ballots thrown out.
Is what the meme says supportive of him? No. Is he aware of that? Seemingly no. Is it incorrect? Also no. And that’s the funniest part. It’s literally calling it a riot while the most prominent images are his name on a hat, a flag, etc. Who staged this riot? I wonder…
These are all good points. By saying it is more complicated, my intention wasn’t to absolve him of responsibility but merely highlight that other government actors influenced the events of that day. Namely, FBI instigators encouraging violence, Capitol Police deaths being falsely attributed to happening during the riots, there not being enough security at the Capitol, Capitol Police waving in protestors, etc. It was his rally and he played an integral part so ultimately I agree with you but I contend it was more complicated than “Trump said violently enter the Capitol” or “other government actors are responsible and not Trump”. In other words, Trump was an irresponsible dumbass but there are definitely other forces who want to make sure Trump will never be president again.
See, I feel like the lack of security and other questionable actions were more in favor of Trump, allowing the crowd to move more freely and come closer than ever would be possible if they responded as expected. I’m not exactly up on my 1/6 lore recently, but regardless, shit wasn’t handled correctly, regardless of what side you’re on. Motivations get much more murky, which is insane. It just goes to show the state of US politics that were having to deep dive into primary, secondary, tertiary motives.
Not that other major nation politics isn’t the same, it’s just exhausting.
Yeah you’re totally right. That pretty much sums up Trump’s entire presidency. As someone who leans progressive, I was hoping he was playing 3D chess at times and would fix certain things given the overlap between populist and progressive ideas. But instead, we just got chaos.
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Haha I was just testing out Lemmy and didn’t honestly expect anyone to respond. But I agree with you.
He’s so used to calling things staged fake news he fails to realize that if the riot was staged He’s 1 admitting the riot was a riot and 2 that it was staged by him
He’s a moron, his last two remaining brain cells are fighting for third place.
He most likely doesn’t want to jail.
I wouldn’t want to jail either personally, that’s actually most of the reason why I don’t start insurrections
Is it confusing when he is honest or what? I don’t get it. Even a broken clock can be right twice per day.
Trump and other republicans in government power staged an attempted coups on Jan 6. It’s not a conspiracy theory or anything, I didn’t even realize this was debated, it’s literally what happened.
It’s “debated” (and I use that term very loosely) because the current US Fascist Republican party and its voter base need to keep gaslighting the general public about what actually happened on Jan 6.
Like, any rational person knows that Jan 6 was obviously an insurrection attempt, which I like to think is the majority of the US - but apparently there’s a very vocal sect of citizens who would be pretty okay with a fascist state so long as it’s branded with a big red R.
