• gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works
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    1 year ago

    I feel like it’s a lot closer to “well those fuckin’ Nazi wingnuts seem like they’re gonna start something at some point soon, so I think it’d be prudent to have some contingency plans”. That’s where my head is, at least.

    • AfricanExpansionist@lemmy.ml
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      I believe we will get no necessary reforms without threat of violence. The rich will absolutely shoot us, so we just be prepared to do the same

      Look up the Battle of Blair Mountain

      • KinglyWeevil@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Exactly this.

        Non violent mass protests work because the implicit threat is, “make the changes we’re demanding or we’ll drag you out here and beat you to death.”

        MLK was only effective because of the alternative of dealing with Malcolm X.

      • YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.worldOP
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        You need a two hand approach, the larger peaceful movement and a smaller more aggressive movement to lead toward success. MLK & Malcolm X during the Civil Rights Movement is the example you want to set. You sway public opinion by showing violent actions committed against the unarmed peaceful protestors. You pressure by have your more aggressive wing just be themselves. Throughout American history this has been the path to change. The aggressive side doesn’t even need to be violent, they just have to be intimidating and scare the MAGAs. That us enough for them to attack the peaceful protestors who they will attack because they are cowards who crave conformity.

    • pelespirit@sh.itjust.works
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      I’ve seen a lot of instigating comments and posts here on Lemmy today. Protect yourselves, but don’t go instigating in a violent way against people and their homes, it’s a distraction and gives people a reason to go after you.

    • YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.worldOP
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      The biggest difference is that they will face both police and National Guard if they try. It will be like the GOP response to the BLM protest with heavily armed troops, tanks, and helicopters.

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    Force used to oppress, and force used to oppose and defend against those who use force to oppress, are not the same and it truly enrages me that they are treated as even in the same category or a somehow comparable threat.

    It’s subtle shit like this that fuels the “don’t fight hate with hate” nonsense in liberals and centrists (don’t be fooled by the superficial progressive takes, the Guardian is as much a part of the propaganda machine as the S*n and the Daily Hail, they just cater to different demographics) that is, in part of course, keeping us from rising up against the few that oppress us.

    Don’t buy in to it.

  • d4rknusw1ld@lemmy.world
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    Please. I kind of wish they’d just do the thing already so we can put this shit to rest once and for all.

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      1 year ago

      That’s exactly how every Canadian feels about the US every election cycle.

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      Really? Because it’s more likely to take the form of terrorist attacks than anything else. Timothy McVeigh and the Unabomber are heroes to some.