socdems shut the fuck up challenge

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        They’re probably not even trans and thought that would be a protective shield from criticism.

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          Yeah, I love when they make it obvious, I think my favorite is when they say that they are a trans or a gay, as though they were nouns and not adjectives

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      I had someone say this to me in real life. I explained UBI was a libertarian thing, Milton Friedman had a flavour of it (think it was Negative Income Tax) and how if implemented in say the US or UK it would work to absolve the state of any further responsibility and the other sorts of obvious problems it entails. They had never considered that it might not be a good solution I think because only people right of them would argue against them. I quickly changed the topic but they were a bit off for the rest of our time together (not too long, like 15 mins).

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    “I’m about as far-left as you can go, but I think we should indiscriminately massacre those culturally backwards savages, seeing as they don’t pass my litmus test for humanizing a people. I support progressive socialism you know. Oh no not Cuba they’re not real socialists, more like the ubermenschen over in Finland and Norway”

  • For anyone wondering: Punishments in Islam don’t get applied to non Muslims (except for ones like murder and r*pe etc…), and even though it’s forbidden in Islam for to be trans/crossdresser, there’s no punishment for it in Islamic law, let alone death. obviously don’t run into a Hamas member holding a pride flag (like you wouldn’t run into an american cop like that), but if instances of “Hamas kills gazan black transwoman” existed, you would’ve seen a few stories popularized by occupation and western media about it, but they only say “Hamas will drop you off building” like it’s common knowledge, most I’ve found was this article from i24 //TW some torture about a guy named with the fake name “Abdul” and a Hamas commander who was killed in 2016 for being a spy.

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      Israeli secret services do massive phone tapping operations on Palestinians. The purpose is to find gay, trans, et al people with something to hide. Then they blackmail them to turn them into informants. If they get killed for being discovered as informants, then Israel pushes a spin story to the Western public, about how that person was killed for being gay, to demonize Hamas. In reality, it was Israel that directly led to their death.

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      it’s forbidden in Islam for to be trans/crossdresser

      It’s not forbidden to be trans in Islam. Interpretations vary, but Egypt and Iran had fatwas issued in the 80’s supporting the rights of transgender people to sex-reassignment surgery. A trans women even ended up on Pakistan’s supreme court, and Pakistani clerics have issued a fata saying that “humiliating, insulting or teasing them” is haram. Trans people still aren’t treated great, but in a manner by no means unique to Islam or as extreme as they make it out to be.

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          I’ve been learning a bit about Islam and their legal stuff. It’s so extensive, there’s so much there and I can’t believe this wasn’t something I learned. Like you hear that algebra and algorithm get their names from Arab folks (or at least from stuff that happened during the Islamic Golden Age), and I never heard anything about their complex legal tradition. I love bureaucracy, when I read US military documents or read about Stalin’s bureaucracy, I get excited at the litany of documentation and writing I can ponder through looking for something specific.

          I now hope to go to an Islamic country (Iran, Iraq, Jordan, etc.) and have the opportunity to check out their libraries and learning centres.

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    “You say I’m not left wing, but I think it’s fine if people want to smoke weed sometimes! Who’s the real liberal here?!”

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    “I am about as far left as I can go while keeping this lanyard and having privileged access to the Good Old Boys WASP network” pete

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    You’ll be treated much worse being a gay Palestinian in Israel than in Gaza. Because that’s a double whammy.

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    People who have to insist that they’re left wing usually have the most right wing takes imaginable on anything that isn’t LGBT rights

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      Successors to that one annoying “I’m economically conservative but socially liberal” friend we all had during the Obama years.

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      People who have to insist that they’re left wing usually have the most right wing takes imaginable on anything that isn’t LGBT rights

      Some “leftist as they come” types hate LGBTQIA+ people too but want legal weed.