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Incidentally, I stumbled on this while looking for a Marx quote about how representatives of the old feudal order falsely positioned themselves as allies to the lower classes by attacking the excesses of industrial capitalism. If anyone has that quote, please let me know.

  • M68040 [they/them]@hexbear.net
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    None of these people ever seem to think they’d be one of the people getting the shitty end of the stick at the bottom of the pyramid

    Also, The periodic table? The categorization of elements has undergone constant iteration and refinement for centuries. There’s a reason you don’t hear about the plum pudding model or the four classical elements anymore. Hell, five new elements have been discovered in the past 25 years alone.

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      You are a proletariat, you are not going to be a scholar, you will not be a knight fighting (edit: actually dying, your value your life so little??) “”“”“”“”“honorably”“”“”“”“” for your lord (lmao, why would you?), you are not even going to be a property owner, you are going to be a serf. You are going to live in a shitty house, with shitty clothing, doing shitty labour. Your life is going to be worse then it is today.

    • If you lurk these “royalist” subs you sometimes get people fantasizing about living a humble peasant life. But they’re always like, peasants in late-medieval central Europe living in those idyllic looking houses they preserve in Bavaria. Nobody ever images being a Russian surf or a slave on a Roman olive plantation.

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      There’s too many fucking libertarian to monarchists in the pipeline. I think I’ve seen maybe one or two actual nobles with real titles who are monarchists that made me go “Okay it makes sense an actual prince would support an ideology aligning with his class interests.” But these random ass “I’m actually a knight without a fife” are total dipshits.

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        The logical outcome of anarcho-capitalism would be neofeudalism (logical in the sense of how its internal logic would play out, not that it’s logical in the abstract sense).

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          Oh for sure lmao. They inevitably land on monarchism or fascism (inb4 “you said the same thing twice”). I think you either grow out of libertarianism when you see something that goes too far (private prisons, age of consent, abolishing anti-racsim laws, etc.) or you continue down the Alt-Right pipeline.

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            There’s a recurring theme of young’ns abandoning libertarianism when they first have to get a real job and suddenly discover they’re not actually on equal footing as their boss.