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    17 hours ago

    Yes the wartime Act? Is the us at war?

    “The Alien Enemies Act of 1798 allows the U.S. President to detain or deport individuals from enemy nations during wartime or in response to threats against the U.S.

    Congress is the only one that can declare war, correct, but the President doesn’t need a war to be declared by congress in order to invoke the Alien Enemies Act. A quick google, which I have repeatedly encouraged you to do if you doubt what I’m saying, would have shown you this information right away. It’s not hidden.

    Oh so, the stay of deportation was perfectly fine, not by an “activist” judge.

    Irellevant. Activist judge or not, the stay of deportation is overruled by the Alien Enemies Act.

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        14 hours ago

        The government isn’t invading.

        The President of the USA decides if there is an invasion or predatory incursion, that’s the point. Not congress, not you - the president.

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          Yes And the precedent of is an incursion or predatory invasion are clear, what else is clear is that this situation is neither of those, so the act was used under false presences, so the president is, as per usual flaunting the rule of law, it was invoked incorrectly, and falsely, as there is no incursion or predatory invasion

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        The president does have the power during wartime… which the president doesnt get to decide, congress does.

        I don’t know how many times it needs to be pointed out to you, because even your own links specifically say it, but you’re wrong. It can be invoked during wartime OR when there is an invasion or predatory incursion which is at the discretion of the President. “Or” is the key word here that you don’t seem to be understanding.

        Congress decides when it is “wartime”.

        The President decides when there is an ongoing invasion or predatory incursion.

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          15 hours ago

          There isn’t an invasion or predatory incursions though, that’s just factual. Otherwise the president of El Salvador couldn’t have come to the us, as they are the “enemy” “invading”. That’s what you don’t seem to be understanding

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        15 hours ago

        I did, there is no ongoing invasion OR predatory incursion. There’s the issue

        According to you, but you don’t get to decide that. According to the President however, who DOES get to decide if there is, there is. Your own links say this.

        If you don’t like that the President has the power to do this under the Alien Enemy Act, you should say that instead of saying that the President doesn’t have the power to do it when he clearly does.

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          15 hours ago

          No, not according to me according to the real world and what’s happening

          The president does have the power during wartime… which the president doesnt get to decide, congress does.

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        16 hours ago

        Ok i dont know what the deal is with this “max comment depth” error since you can clearly still go further.

        Yes? And did you keep reading? How those words are specifically used during wartime or invasion which this is clearly not?

        The president is the one that gets to decide if an invasion is happening, per the act.

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        16 hours ago

        again “max comment depth”:

        Are you pretending that the last 2 sentences of the text on that image, which I have already pointed out, do not exist? Here, I’ll point it out again:

        But the president need not wait for congress to invoke the law based on a threatened or ongoing invasion or predatory incursion

        This is what the President did, and the act allows for it.

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        17 hours ago

        apparently we’ve reached “max comment depth” down below so I’ll reply here:

        Yes? And did you keep reading? How those words are specifically used during wartime or invasion which this is clearly not?

        You mean did I keep reading the very next sentence? I sure did!

        The president has inherent authority to repel these kinds of sudden attacks — an authority that necessarily implies the discretion to decide when an invasion or predatory incursion is underway.

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        17 hours ago

        FROM YOUR OWN LINK:

        But the president need not wait for Congress to invoke the law based on a threatened or ongoing invasion or predatory incursion.

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          17 hours ago

          Yes? And did you keep reading? How those words are specifically used during wartime or invasion which this is clearly not?