• Warl0k3@lemmy.world
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    10 hours ago

    Neat, a point by point breakdown. Love those. In no way are they fingernails to the blackboard of internet discussion.

    Lets just get this over with:

    That’s just not true.

    Okay it’s pretty clear you’re very unfamiliar with this subject.

    and no explanation why

    The entire rest of my comment explains why. That’s what the whole comment is about. “Why” is the entire thesis of the comment. It is the comments entire raison d’être. In summary: the inefficiencies inherent to distributed implementation, the lack of service infrastructure, the short lifespans of the high-density battery chemistries needed in residential installs, etc.

    In a cost exercise if the batteries last longer than the payback period they are worth it. Which is the case so that point is meaningless.

    I don’t really care, though. It’s got nothing to do with the points I was making, which is why I didn’t address it. It’s largely irrelevant.

    Makes no sense because the struggles the grid currently has with solar will be offset. Home batteries reduces demand on the grid and internalise [sic] production and demand more into the house.

    Okay, no. This is not how residential demand or load balancing or power infrastructure works. There’s components you’re assuming exist that would have to run on magic to be safe (some kind of automatic interlock cut-in), and even those would absolutely devastate the grid by constantly adding and removing whole residential loads at random.

    Your bias against Elon is just limiting your world view.

    Oh buddy… buddy no. Come on.

    Chemistry has nothing to do with electrons on the wires so that doesn’t make sense.

    My gaster is well and truly flabbered. I honestly don’t know what to say in response to this.


    Phew, that sure was a lot wasn’t it? Please please please take the time you’d use to write a response to this comment and go watch some electroboom videos instead, he’s very entertaining and a great educator of the concepts at play here.

    • Wanderer@lemm.ee
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      Neat, a point by point breakdown. Love those. In no way are they fingernails to the blackboard of internet discussion

      Well unfortunately your mental capacity seems to make it a necessity.

      That’s what the whole comment is about. “Why” is the entire thesis of the comment. It is the comments entire raison d’être. In summary: the inefficiencies inherent to distributed implementation, the lack of service infrastructure, the short lifespans of the high-density battery chemistries needed in residential installs, etc.

      The question is about why you think solar is good for home but not batteries. That hasn’t been explained. You used grid issues as a reasoning and inefficiencies. Which is exactly the same as as solar and that was the whole reason for the question in the first place. I’m sorry you’re not getting that, I made the fatal assumption you had some intelligence behind you but I’m being proved wrong. You can’t even understand simple conversations. The only actual point you made is wear on batteries but that only matters for a financial and environmental factors but your point falls flat on it’s face with both. I guess you did also say batteries are better on the grid than at home but that was accepted before the conversation started and the same with solar (at least for me and hence the conversation). The financial business reasonings is just mind blowing, businesses and consumers like to make money and they both do. Financially, batteries aren’t some Elon conspiracy theory, that’s just business. That seems too much for you. But solar has the same ideas about paybacks so I do struggle to see how you think one works and the other doesn’t. Ah well I guess an answer to that isn’t coming.

      I don’t really care, though. It’s got nothing to do with the points I was making, which is why I didn’t address it. It’s largely irrelevant.

      Its not though because you think a businessman isn’t doing businessman things. That’s how its directly relevant to what you said.

      internalise [sic]

      Hahahaha this is the icing on the cake. Your arrogance matches your stupidity. Look if you’re going to try correct someone at least spend 10 seconds on google, but obviously that’s too much for you. That’s how that’s words spelt. Hahaha that says it all about your conversation doesn’t it? That should be the end of it, but at least I’ll finish this comment off.

      Okay, no. This is not how residential demand or load balancing or power infrastructure works. There’s components you’re assuming exist that would have to run on magic to be safe (some kind of automatic interlock cut-in), and even those would absolutely devastate the grid by constantly adding and removing whole residential loads at random.

      I don’t know what to say. When solar is used in the house it doesn’t go down the lines. There is less demand on the wires that’s just fact.

      I’m sorry. I known you want to come across like you know stuff but I just started by asking you about a simple point and you’ve come across really badly both in terms of intelligence and in delivery. Good luck with both in the future.

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        The question is about why you think solar is good for home but not batteries.

        What? I don’t think that. “Which is exactly the same as as solar and that was the whole reason for the question in the first place.” Yes this is my entire point, that home battery systems are not matured to where they beat out local municipal facilities and the economies of scale that come with them, as is true with solar and every other form of power generation right now. Power grids are not built to support this kind of use, for a host of reasons.

        When solar is used in the house it doesn’t go down the lines

        Yeah, it does. That’s why they’re dangerous, because unless you have something like an interlock to physically separate it from the grid it will unexpectedly energize the grid even if that leg is isolated at the station. This kills so many electricians every year, and there is not a component that makes this idiot proof. The number of pried off interlocks on standby systems that I have seen is fucking terrifying, and automatic interlock switches simply aren’t reliable enough for broad consumer installation.

        Hahahaha this is the icing on the cake […] That’s how that’s words spelt.

        Yes you know, that would explain why it didn’t have those squiggly red lines under it when I wrote the comment. Strange I could miss something so obvious. I wonder what I could have possibly been thinking. Complete mystery. Gee.