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This post is “FYI only” for blahaj lemmy members. It is not a debate, and is not intended for non blahaj lemmy users to weigh in and offer opinions.
I recently received reports of a feddit.uk user espousing transphobia. Specifically, this was a feddit.uk user refusing to use the word cis, repeating the “adult human female” dog whistle, and claiming that trans women are not women. I approached a member of the feddit.uk admin team and raised my concerns and sought clarification of their stance on posts like this, where the transphobia is mostly dogwhistles, and “civil disagreement” on the validity of trans folk.
I was told by the feddit.uk admin that their preferred response is this kind of transphobia is to “sort it out through discussion and voting”. However, the comments in question are currently more upvoted than downvoted, and little “sorting out” has occurred. The posts remain in place.
At this point, the admin stopped responding to my messages despite being active elsewhere on lemmy. When it became clear they were ignoring my messages and had no intention of removing the posts in question, I made the decision to defederate the instance.
I know some folk agree with the feddit.uk admins approach of pushback through discussion and voting, but this instance is not designed to be that kind of space. Blahaj lemmy is meant to be a place where we can avoid the rampant transphobia universally visible on nearly every other social media platform, and where we can exist without needing to debate our right to do so.
Just normal terf Island things.
cw:transphobia The context
The feddit admins have responded in this post:
https://piefed.social/post/691666
Admin Responses
flamingo-scant@feddit.uk 17 hours ago
To be clear, there were no posts, this is about two comments by one of our users, both of which I personally pushed back on. We’re still discussing what to do, but consensus takes time.
ᴇᴍᴘᴇʀᴏʀ 帝@feddit.uk 19 hours ago
Address the comments or address the defederation?
I was the Admin who was contacted by Ada and that is a mischaracterisation of what I said. Our rules still stand that we won’t allow transphobia.
Unfortunately, as the ruling on the interpretation of the law has recently changed, we are going to have to figure out how we approach this and that is going to require a consensus amongst the Admins, and an agreement on our wording going forward.
This is going to take a bit for us to work out (although not too long, we’re getting there, I have been active on Lemmy but I don’t call the shots, and we need input from all Admins) and if, in the meantime, LBZ feel we aren’t moving fast enough and they need to defederate from us then that is obviously their right.
flamingo-scant@feddit.uk 14 hours ago
The issue is this rule in c/unitedkingdom and c/uk_politics: Disappointing comments will generally be left to fester in ratio, outright horrible comments will be removed.
We’ve never had anything like the current wave of transphobia, not even those pogroms back in July, so we’ve never had to work out the exact line between ‘disappointing’ and ‘horrible’. Working out that line needs discussion with all the admins, which unfortunately takes time. Regardless of what the government says or does, transphobia is not and will never be allowed here.
Blahaj: Goes out of its way to defend chasers and transphobes at the cost of a significant portion of lemmy’s trans users
Also Blahaj: Why are we having so many issues with transphobes!
I’m a trans person new on Lemmy but I’ve felt way more at home here than on Blahaj for reasons i can’t put my finger on
I mean this with all sincerity and no disingenuity but can you explain how Blahaj defends chasers and transphobes? The vibes were weird over there
Communists tend to have principles. We die on some really dumb hills sometimes, but liberals will concede on everything all the time.
I find the sexualisation of trans people on blahaj uncomfortable, and when I still was on there I saw a lot of unmoderated sexism and ableism.
The 196 community in general has weird vibes, I’ve heard that the 196 subreddit has many vaush fans and vaush himself is just a really weird dude who normalises fetishising trans people and drawn child sexual assault material. The lemmy 196 community is a spinoff of the subreddit and the largest community on blahaj (last time I checked). I’ve had discussions with people there who linked to vaush videos as ‘source’ for why it’s ok to behave like a jerk be ableist. I think vaush is a horrible guy and his community is toxic, and some of the main posters and mods on blahaj are part of that toxic community which explains why a lot of the problematic stuff doesn’t get removed.
Can someone please explain what “fetishing trans people” is?
Like dil said, but if you’re still not sure, it basically means they have a kink for trans people, and as such, can tend to treat trans people as more of a sexual object for their personal gratification rather than as actual people.
I think they meant “fetishizing”
The majority of the moderation team of /c/196 was cis, which gives you a general idea of how fucked the vibes are at that lemmy instance.
WTF no wonder jesus
There’s been some bad blood since when they were federated and the (old) 196 mods were particularly shitty, example: https://hexbear.net/post/363529/3762934
Since then there’s been new 196 mods because the old 196 tried to force-migrate the whole comm to .world.
I still remember HornyOnMain getting condescendingly berated and called “phobic” by a chaser for not wanting to fuck him. Just insane how the mods over there barely did anything about those incidences.
Post: https://hexbear.net/post/373222
Interaction itself: https://hexbear.net/pictrs/image/fb45a987-1510-44fe-a7e0-e68283c2db2b.png
What did they do?
Admins wrote a small summary here explaining the reasons why we defeded from blajah.zone: https://hexbear.net/post/369410
Thanks!
That just makes it even better/funnier how the 196 comm mod team just moved to world because Ada was too mean to us by asking us to moderate.
Damn! I completely missed that. And apparently Moss is gone now for good, which leaves our Moss as the superior bryophyte.
I love happy endings.
Moss mentioned‼️
I’m glad the impostor is gone because I don’t want anyone ever thinking I’m connected to that dickhead
Well, technically you’re the impostor, because the other one made their account 4 days earlier than you.
I am better and therefore the true Moss. The pretender Moss has fallen
They arent gone, they chicken out with leaving and now there are 3, 196 comms with 2 in blahaj
Not entirely but left for lw. Idk what users numbers are on any of the 3 cause had to block them. Idk why they love rule so much
uh oh, do i need to retract my “based” statement? i dunno enough about blahaj maybe