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There’s something very irritating to me about the President using the word “trolling.”
Maybe I’m being a stick in the mud, but the Leader of the Free World using Internet slang just doesn’t seem right to me. It’s petty, I know, but still.
It is not, however, as irritating as people defending the shit he does to throw the global economy and international community into chaos, by saying he’s just trolling.
He learned stuff from Elon. That is worrying.
The term has entered the mainstream lexicon now. It’s not really just Internet slang anymore.
May as well be cuz it ain’t happening
This didn’t work out well for the US last time.
I’m gonna be brutally honest here: unless it’s possible to reverse climate change impacts, the US was always going to invade and annex Canada. Even if we had a string of only progressive Presidents leading up to that point. The southern half of our country is about to become agriculturally useless and nearly uninhabitable. The only place for the US to go is north.
Hi, you’re not invading us. If you do - everyone dies. Canadians are extremely fucking petty. If we can’t have what’s ours - no one is getting it. We’ll uranium the waterways, and burn our own power stations. We will burn our earth and torch the sky before Yanks take one square centimetre from us. You will see.
I absolutely support this response. The US shouldn’t be allowed to swing its military might around to extort or absorb its neighbors. That said, it absolutely will and I hope it pays dearly for it.
Or, the southern part of the US dies the fuck off, and the average IQ of the US increases at the same time.
Did you notice even the last Top Gun movie had Tom Cruise dropping bombs and stealing planes from a country that looks VERY MUCH like Canada?
Because the US is inherently a “murder and pillage” kind of nation, right? You’re certainly not saying things couldn’t be worked out in the long run between understanding and humane people, right?
The U.S. IS inherently a “murder and pillage” kind of nation, yes. It’s kind of the only thing we’ve ever done. If you’re from the U.S. (like me) and you keep asking yourself “how did we get here?” Or “what happened to the America of my youth”, then reading a little bit about history could be helpful. Or shit, talk to any Native about what their history, culture, language is, and then follow up with “What happened to them?”.
The United States of America is a failed experiment. It’s time to put it down.
My soul is rock hard after reading your reply. Having said that, I wish those who are more ignorant than evil could be saved from the coming shitstorm. 😔
How is election security in Canada? There was fuckery in the last presidential election here, and I don’t doubt they’ll try it in Canada too.
Thanks to Elections Canada it’s actually a lot better than the states. We also get answers sooner. There’s nothing like an American election to make Canadians thankful for Elections Canada.
Yeah, our Elections Canada is quite solid.
The influencing of support for our right-wing party endorsed by Elon Musk/Trump/Jordan Peterson via X, Facebook, and campaign financing is the real issue imo.
Christopher Tidus just did two hour and a half long podcasts with a guest. He never has guests. The guest is a veteran that has teamed up with a data analyst and a computer geek. They have the data. The election was stolen. They used every single method from kicking voters off the eligible elector list, to vote switching, to ballot box stuffing. The election was a sham that shows a clear Russian Tail.
This guy seems like he might know what he’s talking about but is there a version that isn’t a 3 hour video?
Like an article or something?
Honestly? I know who Chris Titus is. Never figured he’d not be a Trump supporter. Know nothing about him really, and I guess my impression of him was completely wrong. So…uhmmmmm…cool! Thanks for sharing!
I’m about 10 minutes into the first part. And, yeah, this is really really…idfk…fuck. Thanks. I’m really glad you shared this.
Edit:
The “mildly tangential ranting” on this comment I made yesterday I think is kinda relevant to this…if only tangentially…
I refer to him as a left leaning Dennis Leary. I can understand why you’d think he was right leaning. He’s got the “middle aged white man funny rant” style of comedy down pat.
I remember his network show and stand up specials, always been a fan
Commenting for later viewing.
At least make the offer enticing, give Canada the option to join as 10 states (one per province); giving them an allotment of the 435 house seats and 20 senators.
I’m pretty sure that would be more than enough to swing the house, senate and presidency towards the left for the next few generations at least.
Canada could literally save the US if that were the case.
Fuck off with that bullshit. We have no interest in losing our freedom, healthcare, safety and rights to save the usa.
Maybe you should try fixing your own house.
Also, there are 10 provinces and 3 territories.
I’ll keep my sovereignty, Healthcare and safe children, and defend that with my life.
Try to do something and see how your army does against 30 million insurgents who you can’t tell from your own citizens. You couldn’t beat Iraq, wouldn’t be good against Canada, nato and the commonwealth.
Elbows up
Suggesting that invading and annexing a country is an “enticing offer” if they’re given voting rights instead of becoming an enslaved resource colony is a hell of a take… “But it’ll be good because the USA will benefit!”
Stop sanewashing a horrific invasion with selfish American-centric reasons. I’m trying to say this in the nicest way possible but this is one of the reasons the world despises the USA right now.
I see these types of comments constantly and it blows my mind that some Americans think this is reasonable and not a deeply offensive and ignorant thing to say.
We don’t exist to fix your broken country. Y’all need to stop buying in to stupid ass theories on how this would be good for the US. It won’t, many of us Canadians would rather be dead than to be American.
A better solution for your political would be for the USA to break up and no longer be a country. If you honestly believe your politcal problems can’t be fixed without someone giving up their country, then it should be you willing to give up your country, not someone else.
A better solution for your political (situation) would be for the USA to break up and no longer be a country.
As an American, I endorse this plan. Let it all just dissolve
Yeah, that’s the thing. Even if you buy the idea of Trump’s policies (which TBH have a few grains of truth), the implementations of them are so full of nonsense. Like, ok, get Canada into the US, let’s just roll with that for the sake of argument… It might make Canada and the US stronger, like the openness between the states does. It would consolidate many federal functions. Canda could retain their culture like individual states do. Sounds plausible.
…And your plan is to get them to join as one state, and only if they grovel to you, by harassing them on Twitter, offering zero details? Like, what world is he living in?
Translation: he’s probably trolling.
Kill him. He only deserves a bullet.
Preventing a shit show like this was literally why the second amendment was written
The second amendment was written so that there would be militias, who could act quickly, in spread-out, often frontier locations, in case of foreign incursion, giving the military proper time to respond.
That’s too kind
U S perspective here.
I keep remembering that oath our armed forces repeat so much: “… To defend against all enemies, foreign and domestic.”
What in the flippin’ hell do these bastards gotta do to be considered “domestic enemies”‽
Because apparently directly provoking all our neighbors to attack us out of self defense, or allying with friggin’ Putin, along with a million other treasons, aren’t qualifying enough? Who over there is gonna actually protect and defend the Constitution and the People of the United States of America?!
Because dammit we haven’t lived this frickin long, through countless crises and bullshit, just to get shot or bombed by a Canadian we should’ve been sharing pancakes and beer with!!!
FULFILL THAT OATH YOU LIKE TO RECITE SO MUCH. OR COUNTLESS INNOCENT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DIE OVER ORANGE CALIGULA’S EGO.
Because that’s not how the military works.
And in the end, it isn’t up to them. Trump won the popular vote. Not by much, but he’s in the White House legally and legitimately. Doesn’t matter what his ‘popularity ratings’ are now. We The People put him there, and We The People are the ones responsible for removing him.
Do you really want the military to decide ‘I know the majority of y’all voted for this, but we’ve decided we don’t like that, so we’re overthrowing the government’ for anything?
And we aren’t trolling when we say you’ll sign your own death warrant, as a nation, and as a person.
the richest nation on earth with a military budget larger than the domestic budget of dozens of countries combined, couldnt stomach a fight against dirt poor cavemen, armed with cold war and WW2 relics, on the other side of the world, who were so culturally alien to them, they might as well have been from mars. And you’re going to pick a fight with people who all they have to do is wear a Bruins hat and they pass for an American?
Ask the Russians how the occupation of their Ukrainian cousins territory has worked out. If you could speak to the dead that is. Those who are still alive, live looking over their shoulder for the rest of their lives.
I sure as hell wouldn’t want the job of securing logistics in the northern woods with a bunch of angry Canucks running around.
The Russian occupation is actually turning out more or less fine, the Russian government is better at finding and eliminating organized dissent than at pretty much anything else. They’ve been having some trouble against the regular army however
Weird, I seem to recall there being some very big explosions happening in Russia like all of the time.
I guess Russia is very good at rooting out organized dissent and preventing commando operations, just very bad at enforcing no smoking rules around explosives?
What makes you think those are commando infantry operations by locals rather than airstrikes from ukraine
What makes you think it makes a difference? Targets in Russia are blowing up either way.
Also some of the big booms in Russia happened far enough away from Ukraine that it’s unlikely a drone strike. I suppose they still could be, but the drone operator would need to be inside Russia to make that happen.
couldnt stomach a fight against dirt poor cavemen
And yet, you think you haven’t succumbed to American brainrot.
Yeah, because the Taliban are the pinnacle of a sophisticated, civilized society, worthy of worldwide emulation.
/s since it’s sadly necessary these days.
It just sounds weird to call your enemies cavemen honestly. I know they’re the fucking Taliban and stuff, but there’s something to it that is hard to explain. If we’d be talking about Sam Losco on the other hand, that’d be a different story as that guy is a literal caveman.
A lot of them were literally living in caves, so…
Also I think we can relax the PC rules a bit when we’re saying someone that thinks women are property is a caveman.
Speaking as a Canadian… Yes, we know.
You guys had the most trustworthy, most reliable ally ever. The faith and trust between Canada and the US was legendary.
That’s gone now. It’ll be a century or more before you can ever rebuild that trust.
And you threw it away for this drooling moron to play tinpot dictator.
Was it worth it?
For him and his administration? Yes, it was worth it. Destroying that was the entire point.
Call his bluff.
Ya’ll are about the size of, and politically left of, California. 54 of 538 electoral votes. 52 of 435 members in the House of Representatives. You’d be another California.
You’re the last thing that the GOP wants involved in US politics.
If you hate Trump, you can drive a wedge between him and the GOP simply by reminding us that you have universal healthcare, and you intend to spread it.
That implies that Canada would be given representation instead of some inferior “possession” status like Puerto Rico. Just because he says he’d make it a state doesn’t mean anything more than any other splat of his verbal diarrhea.
That depends on there still being elections
There will be elections.
Whether we use touch screens or guillotines to cast our ballots is an unanswered question. But there will be elections.
Sure there will be elections. But what do you do when Trump gets 90% of the vote like Putin does?
There are elections and then there are “elections”.
Start putting up billboards reminding the Secret Service how many terms a president is allowed to serve.
Billboards reminding JD Vance that he can finish out up to two years of Trump’s term and remain eligible for two terms of his own.
“Remind” Trump that everyone around him is plotting against him.
Russia had term limits… until Putin just changed the constitution to remove them.
But why would you assume having some other fascist in charge will fix the problem? Trump is old and unhealthy, so there’s a good chance he’ll before the end of his term from natural causes. Sure JD Vance isn’t nearly as popular as Trump, but if elections are rigged and the media is under the control of the President (as things are in Russia), that won’t matter much.
Trump is the symptom, American proclivity towards fascism is the real problem.
Aaaand when will these so called elections happen?
When do you want to cast your vote?
I for my part voted, but not in the US, which I am happy of.
Can some of us, uh, join you though?
Honestly I’ve been worrying for years that the only way the US is going to resolve this division and hostility within their country is by breaking up, possibly largely along red state/blue state lines, and hopefully not triggering a violent (or god forbid nuclear) civil war in the process.
But I can say as a Canadian, if it does come to that, and you guys can’t take back your country (which I really think you can, once you start to accept what is happening and accept that it’s gonna hurt and you dig your heels in anyway, I don’t think there’s anyone who will be able to take you down, not even Trump and crew), then we would be absolutely happy to quickly rebuild and strengthen our relationship with most of the blue states. And however you end up wanting to arrange yourselves in the end, we’ll work with that. And if you guys genuinely wanted our help, our resources, our logistical support, even our protection (what little we can provide), if things were to start looking like actual civil war, I’m sure we’d absolutely be willing to figure out what sort of arrangement is actually going to work. We’d have to at least initially discuss it as equals and as partners though, I don’t think we’d ask you or coerce you to give up your sovereignty, any more than we’d want you to take ours. But if the intention to join Canada was a popular attitude, I expect we’d be willing to consider it, probably after some cooling-off period though to make sure it’s not just a passing fad. The progressive parts of America are the parts we’ve always loved. If you guys come knocking on our door needing a couch to crash on we’re not going to ask how long you need to stay, we’re just going to go find pillows and blankets.
the only way the US is going to resolve this division and hostility within their country is by breaking up
No part of the US should be left to the fascists. They need to be crushed everywhere, in the US and globally. We are not going to sell out decent people in red states to be enslaved and oppressed just to make our lives easier.
Or, as the last decent Republican put it: the union must be preserved at all costs.
And this time we finish Reconstruction.
That’s the American spirit that I, as a Canadian, want to see! It’s your country. Don’t let them take it!
You moved me to tears, and I’m not even out of bed, yet. Thank you so much for this genuine display of human compassion.
i honestly think that applies to most of the world: pretty much everyone will back the blue states, because the red states are friendless right-wing nut jobs compared to pretty much the entire west… and it’s not like china would come to their “rescue” - they probably dislike them more than the rest of us even!
Most of the world*
*excludes Russia, Costa Rica, Argentina, Hungary, Israel, possibly India, probably Turkey, and any other fascist right wing countries. Sadly also excludes Alberta too.
Same. I don’t honestly know how we recover as a country. Trump isn’t the cause, he’s a symptom. A tumour with a much larger cancerous problem underneath. At no point will the sane (and actual majority of us) roll over and become fascists. But at the same time, I don’t see how the third of the country that has gone full fascist suddenly regains their sanity and joins us.
The USSR’s goal was to divide us, and the Cold War never ended, it just went underground. There is a large part of me that is afraid at this point Balkanization is our future. But how we would we even get there without causing death and destruction?
But regardless of sentiments about losing faith in us (and I don’t blame those that feel that way, they are warranted) I do love you all who recognize that not all of us are the insane ones that make it on TV. We do still value our brothers/sisters/enbys to the north and are proud that we have a friendship unparalleled and the world’s longest undefended border. The world is a often a dark and scary place, but it’s friendships like these that make it worthwhile.
I appreciate you internet stranger.
You’ve put it very well. And as someone that lives in BC, I agree wholeheartedly.
You guys are the best. I’m just south of you in the PNW and want us to always have each other’s backs.
❤️,seriously.
There’s an immigration process, go ahead and apply if you want.
the simple truth is that 95% of these people are not able to immigrate, they aren’t wealthy, they aren’t skilled. No country would take them.
Immigration is a tedious process, Its a pipe dream for many. For a time I thought I would Immigrate to the UK when I was dating someone there, years later I realized I didnt have a chance in hell unless we were married. that was the only path that was available to me.
As a Millennial whose teen years were filled with adults pushing me to gO To cOLleGe constantly, I’m pretty pissed. I could make and fill a Bingo card of bullshit reasons people repeated ad nauseum, yet in retrospect there is one critical reason that nobody mentioned - that if you want to emigrate, other countries only want you if you’re “educated.” (Or “skilled.”)
I can’t imagine most adults I knew were even aware of the requirements for becoming a citizen in another country. I had dreams of moving to Canada at that age, so if somebody had known, it would’ve been a very convincing argument on me. For those that don’t know - the system is set up to prevent most people from going anywhere, but having a specialized degree makes you desirable internationally. It’s one of the few ways that ordinary (read: non-wealthy) people have that allows them to move to a new country.
Well, if anyone wants to marry a Canadian, I’m single.
Did I just hear your inbox explode? Let me hi check your profile rq before I apply!
Was it worth it?
Southerners: “Yes, but we get to abuse brown people again!”
And say the “R-word” apparently
Redneck?
I assume certain short-term things will get better with anyone less crazy than Trump, but I agree the US is no longer reliable for anything long-term, and no other country should deal with us on the assumption that we’ll give up certain short-term advantages for a long term stability within our sphere of influence. It’s not even that the US was “good” (though I imagine the next hegemonic power could easily be worse), but across administrations, the US was generally intelligent about how to leverage its influence but retain enough goodwill to continue to do so indefinitely.
This administration is showing the world how poorly codified and vulnerable the US democracy is.
We learned that last time Trump was president that most of our country has been run on gentlemen’s agreements. It was news to a lot of us as well.
I think a huge part of the problem is that it’s run on Gentlemen’s agreements but we pretend it’s not. The UK’s “Constitution” is a hodgepodge of laws and court cases and things that probably closer to treaties than anything else. It’s a mess, but they know it’s a mess so there’s a very real sense that the gentlemen’s agreements are important and as real as anything else.
In America, we worship our Constitution like a holy text, but so many of our institutional controls depend on Judicial Review (which is not technically mentioned in the constitution), on following along with the presumed intent, and on fudging around the edges when it’s obvious the machinery of the state would grind to a halt if we had to amend it every time a novel situation arose. Yet, nevertheless, we have an entire school of thought built around the idea of shallow surface readings. The “originalists,” not to put too fine a point on it, are fucking idiots.
If you get the idea that the only important thing is the blackletter text agreed to by a gaggle of 18th century provincials, many of whom were intelligent and well-intentioned, but all of whom were elites and either slave-owners or okay with hanging out with slave owners, then you have a recipe for considering stupid shit like presidential immunity or having a speaker of the house who’s not a Congressperson and who can become president despite already serving two full terms, because it doesn’t explicitly say you can’t. It’s childish and dangerous, and their ascendancy in the judicial branch is a travesty.
Yup. I joked that we’re still on Constitutional Republic version 2.27, and not only is the next point release long overdue, but we should really have upgraded to version 3 or 4 by now.
Woah, we only just finally left the beta and are on constitution republic 1.27. The articles of confederation is more of an alpha test that was not good and tried the constitutions and while it worked, it never left the beta stage as , it just used spaghetti code that led to the civil war, which people wanted to upgrade to the first release won and started the reconstruction era, and caused the final release of 1.15. The south downgraded it back to beta after using violence to restrict people rights and remake the antebellum south under beta 15.01. We finally left after the civil rights movement forced them to put it at 1.25, with no restrictions on people rights. Though we need to not upgrade yet as someone is trying to install banana republic instead.
Sorry… 😞
No. I have zero interest in your apologies. Not you, not any American whose first instinct is to tell us how sorry they are. I’m sure you’re all wonderful people, but we’re well past the point where that matters.
I never, ever, want to hear the word “Sorry” from any of your lips while I’m living with the reality that people I love might die to American bombs and bullets. I am not obligated to assuage your fucking conscience by dignifying your apologies while you all sit around hanging your heads in worthless shame.
We do not want or need your apologies. We want your rage. Get angry. Get out in the streets. Fucking do something.
And when Trump is gone and every last fascist has been hunted down and your government is run like an actual democracy, and your voters have learned how to value and respect friendships with countries outside of your own… Then you can come to us and say sorry.
“In fact, we don’t want them to make cars for us. We want to make our own cars. We don’t need their lumber. We don’t need their energy. We don’t need anything from Canada. And I say the only way this thing really works is for Canada to become a state.”
So he DOES need things from us. If he didn’t need us he’d just walk away and not trade with us. But why would he he want us as a state if we didn’t have something he wanted?
He DOES need us, our workers, and our resources but he doesn’t like that we’re our own sovereign nation. He needs us but he wants us enslaved and controlled.
I think this bears repeating.
We will make you forget Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan. The insurrection will be continent wide and we will just walk over the border and start looting weapons.
We are tougher than anyone thinks and can survive just fine pretending to be homeless or just in your woods or in a looted home.
We will live among you indistinguishable until something good to blow up comes along, or an American needs tied to a tree with their dick in their mouth.
You’ll never feel safe. You’ll never be safe.
Promise.
Yeah, there would be war crimes.
The Geneva Convention did need an update
Geneva Checklist.
The US’ infrastructure is incredibly weak and vulnerable, and there are about a million(!) Canadians living in the US – and that doesn’t include dual citizens which is probably double that.
So it’ll be nothing for Canadians living in the US to fuck shit up in a major way. How many refineries do you think the US can lose before people can’t buy gas anymore? Those Amazon warehouses look pretty flammable. Datacentres would probably burn pretty good too. How long will it take to replace those high-power transmission line transformers? How is the East Coast going to power itself when Canada stops powering them? How are US airports going to operate when there’s small drones continuously overhead? In fact given the hub-and-spoke design of US air travel, only a few airports need to be droned to completely shut down air travel across the US, including shipping. On a final note, only a few hundred grams of thermite can melt of hole through a wing or a fibreglas hull, so a lot of VERY expensive billionaire and government hardware can be reduced to ash with nothing but a small drone and a pissed-off Canadian.
Canadian living in Colorado taking notes
You’re making it sound way harder than it is, The US has like 4? substations that if they all went down at once it would cascade fail about 90% of the grid, they aren’t in bunkers or surrounded by armed guards or anything, they’re random ass substations with chain link fences around them.
Not to mention us Americans who would fight and sabotage for Canadian forces.
If a Canadian tank rolled down the street the next day, I would run out asking to go with them
IEDs. Just sayin’.
Just a reminder to non-canadians that a core part of Canadian identity has always been not being American. It’s a quasi-colonized pov. Make it real and it will be life-or-death for many many folk.
Russia Ukraine vibes
Yep, I frequently hear people bitching about the state of things in Canada and someone almost always follows up with “eh it could be worse, at least we’re not murican”
Fuck murica.
We’re not always great a describing who we are, but we sure as fuck know who we are not.
Gooning to a theoretical war is wild.
Hopefully the Canadians will team up with blue states and we can fight any war he tries inflicting on Canada. I am moving from Texas if we ever invade Canada, most likely Washington
dont worry, the Police , Red State Military, and Private Militias will already have arrested , put a gun to the head of, or straight up killed any potential blue state rebel figureheads before they make a move like invading Canada or Mexico.
this is black and white, a Fascist coup that has taken over America.
I think that we Canadians would be more than happy to add to the Geneva checklist should it come to this.
doom music slowly increases in volume…
Hey, just a lone Canuck on a 10 state fire season careless smoking tour of the wests national forests oughta do it. People forget that we’re largely upwind.
And upstream, but that’s a whole other level of sabotage.
Please don’t view AMERICA as your enemy, just MAGA. They may be in control of the government at the moment, but they don’t control us.
Remember that HitlerPig’s following is only about 1/3 of the country, and they are breath-takingly stupid. MOST of Americans are your allies, and will happily fight alongside you to take both of our countries back from the Nazis.
So many of us have friends and family across the border. We know American people are fellow humans like anyone else and that the enemy is MAGA fascism.
Any American I see traveling in Canada without a MAGA hat will be welcomed by me with open arms. Canadians have a degree of empathy for what you’re dealing with because we feel threatened by the fascist takeover too.
Canadians and Americans who give a damn about respecting peoples’ dignity, no matter their gender or race, will stand in solidarity.
Thanks, I appreciate that. We already have brutal enemies within our own country, we don’t need our neighbors hating us for the actions of those enemies. If America falls to the Maga Nazis, so will Canada. We have to band together to crush and purge them.
I’d have agreed with you 10 years ago. In 2025, any American who is not already fighting (and I mean fighting, not “protesting”) MAGA is my enemy. Try us.
Grow up. These things happen in stages, and we aren’t at the violence stage yet. We owe it to ourselves, and the world, to try our hardest to resolve this existential problem with every other option we have before getting to the violence. Hopefully, we can avoid it all together. An American Civil War would have ripple effects that will have negative repercussions on the rest of the world, and being right next door means it will be worse for you than anyone else.
And you need to understand the same far right attack on America by global fascist forces is also happening in Europe, Central and South America, Australia, Asia, and CANADA. They came after America first, so we won’t be there to protect other nations, but once they have us under control, YOU are next. You don’t want to alienate those who will be your closest allies when the Nazis come for you.
Your comment was clearly meant for the US in, like, 2004. Not sure how it found its way here.
Every Soldier in the Wehrmact who was in Allied territory, was an enemy, regardless of his opinion of Hitler and the party
Every Soldier in the Russian Army, or shitbag Mercenary who is in Ukraine, is an enemy, regardless of their opinion of Putin and Russkiy Mir
Any American who decides to just go along with orders of an invasion of an allied country , will be treated as such. An illegal occupant, an enemy combatant, a legitimate target.
No matter how anyone wants to spin it. Soldiers have options, they may be thrown in the brig for insubordination, they may be forced to frag their officer and go AWOL. But choosing to just go along with your orders, Illegal or otherwise, is complicit guilt in the crime.
I’m not talking about an invading army. By all means, you should treat them with as much lethal force as you can muster. But the vast majority of Americans are as against that invading army as you are. Any American soldier who does not respond to orders to invade by defecting, is considered a MAGA traitor, and is fair game, by both Canada and American Patriots.
“Just following orders” is never a justification. Following illegal orders is illegal.
I hear ya, and mean this with all due respect and just as a counterpoint.
I think the world, and especially Canada, aren’t wrong to expect Americans as a whole to not let it get to that point - democratically, seriously. We have been, happily and willingly, consuming an entire culture of freedom and defence against tyranny. Your news is our news, including all of the violence and rationalization of it - defence of freedom.
We know your massive protests and hard won civil rights because your media is our media just like your products are our bilateral lifelines.
If it gets to the point of invasion I think it’s fair to consider all of America having stabbed us in the back.
Edit: just to try and be lighter about it - it’s like we all took in your movies and books and documentaries but America themselves in a staggering ratio seem to have missed the point or identified the wrong protagonist.
If it gets to the point of invasion I think it’s fair to consider all of America having stabbed us in the back.
Please rethink that. MAGA represents a small and shrinking number of Americans. Many millions of us voted against them, and yet they used their nefarious resources to rig the election and take power. We have been stabbed in the back as much as you would be.
If the MAGA Nazis decide to invade Canada, you can double your forces by calling on the Patriotic Americans who want the Nazis out as much as you do.
AMERICA is not your enemy, MAGA is. Please remember that, we are on YOUR side, and want to assist you in defeating MAGA. If it comes down to an invasion of Canada, MAGA will have an Army, and Canada will have an Army, and the American Patriots will have motivated fighters who will enthusiastically assist the Canadian army to defend your sovereignty, and we are spread all over America. Make use of that valuable resource, and your defeat of MAGA will be much easier.
Yes, I was thinking a lot of us would be valuable in guerilla warfare. Which side would be taken by individuals depends on the individuals.
Guerilla warfare has been extremely effective against the US military for decades.
There are also a LOT of people still working within the government who do not support their current leadership. They can’t ALL be replaced by loyalists, and with every replacement they get weaker, and the Resistance gains another experienced insider.
Resistance Guerillas don’t all have to carry guns and be fighters. Those disgruntled federal employees are perfectly placed to cause all sorts of chaos, leaks, sabotage, weaponized incompetence, malicious compliance, etc. They will be as important to the fight as those willing to commit violence.
We’re waiting with bated breath.
We are, too. The tipping point is coming, but it is always impossible to predict how or when that will happen. But make no mistake, it WILL happen.
Just the South, and they have been the enemy of humanity for centuries, because they care far less about America than they do about their own racism, so much so that they went to war with America in the name of racism.
Except those of us stuck here with no means of escape.
I’m sorry, it is unimaginable to be stuck there.
But the filth is no longer contained, it is destroying even the best parts of America and threatening to destroy the world.
This is now a question of self-preservation.
Ignorance and authoritarian sympathies aren’t drawn on an east west or north south basis anymore.
No, but they originated from the South.
I grew up in a lovely midwestern town, then nafta ended and the vile filth infested us and brought their crime and drugs with them, my town became a nightmare in 2 years.
The rest of the country didn’t want slavery, they didn’t want Jim Crow, they didn’t try to elect segregationists.
Our evil was very, VERY centralized, and it was our mistake for not dealing with them properly after the civil war and preventing their pestilence from spreading.
No, but they originated from the South.
FFS, how do you think Jim Crow ended?
If Southern anti-segregationists and civil rights groups had not stood firm against discrimination, Jim Crow would have never ended.
“Southerners” is not a synonym for ex-slaveowners and segregationists. Denigrating the entirety of the South for the actions of a few is gross.
Also, your remarks have lead me to believe that you seem to think racism simply never existed in the North, which is just an entirely laughable concept.
Some of the most violent resistance to the civil rights movement, was in Chicago, a lovely Midwestern town as you might put it.
If Southern anti-segregationists and civil rights groups had not stood firm against discrimination, Jim Crow would have never ended.
Please, the south stood firm for discrimination, they stood so firm the south switched parties en masse in reaction to civil rights.
Just like 100 years earlier the south had to be drug to decency at gunpoint.
Also, your remarks have lead me to believe that you seem to think racism simply never existed in the North, which is just an entirely laughable concept.
I am brown, and partly grew up in the south, and Midwest, and the coasts.
PLEASE!!! Lecture me on how racism is equal everywhere and not just massively and brutally expressed in the south.
I am DYING to hear how my experiences were all a lie.
Many of us have reason to hate the south, just like I’m sure a lot of Jews had bad feelings about the nazis.
And the nazis actually copied many of their policies from the south verbatim, particularly the Nuremberg Laws from Jim crow.
If the south had a single grain of decency and shame within them, they’d spontaneously combust, lucky for them they don’t.
A geographical region is not uniform in it’s beliefs. You can dislike an area without claiming everyone who lives there is evil.
It is idiotic (and fascistic) to say that the ENTIRE population of an ENTIRE geographic region are ALL demons. It’s simply not true.
If you grew up in the south, you are literally self-deprecating by saying such things.
All I’ll say is I’ll be watching where fire bans are in effect if it ever comes to that.
I love the energy. But if you’re gonna compare Canada to Vietnam I have to point out the obvious geographic and climate differences; along with its proximity and distance from the US.
Get nukes Canada. Seriously, how do you guys not have fucking nukes?
You might consider being the Cuba/USSR with China of this generation. Not even kidding.
I guess it’s time for a preemptive strike Canada, don’t wait until it’s too late.
That seems like a beauty way to go.
