• Juliee@lemm.ee
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    24 hours ago

    Art is something that conveys some message and meaning. Gooning is just opposite

    Cmon you surely realise that these nsfw furry commissioners cannot be called artists.

    Is a brazzers porn director an artist? If your definition says he is then it is a wrong definition.

    Organic being is also wrong btw. Sentient instead.

    On the most basic level art is means of communication.

    As you can see portrait of big tiddy dino waifu on porn site has no message nor communicates anything. There is no meaning to it. There could be but there isn’t. Though OP picture actually communicates something so it is an art in this example, meta art

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        22 hours ago

        I mean if you call a dino with huge tits an art then you are only embarrassing yourself

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          There is nothing about bahonka honkas on a reptilian that immediately disqualify it from being art. You can have tremendous brushwork, lighting or technique on your scaly porn.

          Besides if it manages an emotional response it’s art. Getting you horny is an emotional response.

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            22 hours ago

            Not really lol. Please, no one sane would consider dino with a dick an art. What kind of bubble are you in? Some kind of coomer circles maybe but those people are not to be taken seriously

            You would be ridiculed at any art institution mercilessly if you made it as some sort of bachelors. Actually I want to see it lol

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              22 hours ago

              If the rule is “emotional response except for THAT ONE, eww” its not really an rule. Its some puritan bullshit.

              I never said it was high art, it still qualifies as art.

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                22 hours ago

                No one serious qualifies it as art, you are just embarrassing yourself

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                  22 hours ago

                  Why not then? Other than americans would rather watch snuff as theyd lose their shit over seeing a njpple.

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      Is a brazzers porn director an artist? If your definition says he is then it is a wrong definition.

      Usually it’s not a very high standard but it is a standard, and even without getting into proper erotica and staying with pulp: Lemon stealing whores exist. Even Gonzo in itself is a choice, breaking through the traditional structure, opting to completely eradicate the fourth wall, the pretence. I bet it takes quite some skill to portray the fantasy of being a camera man on a porn set vs. the reality of it.

      Art is not like enlightenment, it’s more like meditation. You don’t need to be good at it to be doing it.

      On the most basic level art is means of communication.

      Nope that’d be language (in whatever form). The core of art is intent. It’s the science of subjective choice, there’s no requirement to be intersubjective. It can be just you and the medium, and that medium can even be yourself, c.f. ars vivendi. Plenty of philosophers are artists.

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            23 hours ago

            With your definitions everything becomes an art. Even painting your walls and baking bread hence it must be incorrect definition as obviously not everything is an art. There is a difference between craft and an art. You can be a good crafter of nsfw images but that doesn’t mean you are an artist.

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              Craft is about objective, not subjective, choice. Craft is saying “The wall of this mug needs to be thicker or I won’t have enough clay to trim the surface smooth”. Art is saying “I’d like to do some more experiments with copper inclusions, they tickle my aesthetic sense”. Sorry I watched a lot of Florian Gadsby lately.

              The creation of a bread recipe often involves art, it is a conversation between your personal taste and the medium. Figuring out how to bake 100 of those a day in a reliable, reproducible manner, is craft. Different bakers land on different points on that spectrum. It’s no different with goon artists, but they probably all have created a recipe or two.

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                  And I think 99.999% of music played in clubs is boring because I’m not interested in the exploration of the emotional motifs that they do. Doesn’t mean that it’s not art, that they’re not doing any exploration, though, even though there’s large amounts of formulaic slop. It means that most DJs aren’t Boris Brejcha. And even with how good he is, due to setting, audience, he’s no French 79, Aphex Twin, you name it.

                  My definition accounts for all that nuance, any particular work can be various degrees of art and craft and the 100th bread that our baker bakes from their own artful recipe is no less of a piece of art than Andy Warhol’s 100th print of the same thing.