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Think what we are seeing is the propogands the capitalists used in the cold war working so effectively that even those in power believe their lies, which is leading to an even more backwards bourgeois ideology
… what? What the fuck is this person talking about? Like, genuinely, I can’t imagine a world where that makes sense.
“a little communism as an anti-treat”
I assume they think doing socialism has held countries back and that the US covertly encouraged it because it kept them from becoming competitive through the virtues of free market capitalism. We are right to laugh at them, of course.
it’s a honkey so assume the exact opposite of what was said
Is this the new “hitler was a socialist” that I’m going to be hearing from now on?
Vijay Pershad comprehensively proved that the CIA overthrew Arbenz using the CIA as his only source. I find that absolutely hysterical
Where could I find that?
I think it might be the book “Washington Bullets”?
washington bullets
the book
they probably heard about the US propping up pol pot and just riffed from there
Ah yes and Ho Chi Minh (don’t look at what happened after)
Imperialism is when you intentionally prop up your enemies
It’s delusional, but they don’t think they were enemies. There are unresolvable contradictions in right wing ideology that force them into this conclusion.
I’d like to hear more about these unresolved contradictions if you don’t mind.
Right wingers are unable to properly confront the failures and contradictions of capitalism, nor can they abide the necessary restraints on individual businesses that the liberal state imposes in order to stabilize the capitalist system. They attribute all of this to a shadowy conspiracy of elites with purely evil motives, frequently casting this conspiracy as communist. This tendency goes at least as far back as the John Birch Society, who took it as an article of faith that Eisenhower was a communist. Essentially, anti-communism collapses into self-negation through its failures to resolve the contradictions of capitalism.
There are Marxists who are much smarter than me and can probably explain this in more depth than I can, but that’s the basic version.
There’s this yank I talk politics with sometimes and he is terminally conspiracy brained. For him, everything comes down to that “shadowy conspiracy of elites with purely evil motives” that you describe. He talks about the WEF, globalism, the Bilderburgs, all the greatest hits of right wing brain rot.
He’s mentioned several times in the past that he believes that the USA was the one who imposed the “evil Communist dictatorships” abroad like North Korea. I could not figure out for the life of me how on Earth he ever reached this blatantly ahistorical conclusion.
You might be onto something here.
He’s mentioned several times in the past that he believes that the USA was the one who imposed the “evil Communist dictatorships” abroad like North Korea. I could not figure out for the life of me how on Earth he ever reached this blatantly ahistorical conclusion.
I suppose that could be true in the sense that the US imposed themselves on the peninsula to prevent it being unified under a communist dotp, instead relegating them to the just north half of the peninsula while the burger regime turns the south half into its puppet. Even then, my last sentence was a big stretch.
I think it might be dumber than that. I think they might be referring to our backing of dictatorships as backing communism because they think communism is when dictator. If you asked them to specify they would probably say Saudi Arabia and shit.
I think that may be more the liberal mindset. Conservatives don’t mind dictators a la Pinochet as long as they’re right wing and US aligned.
Conservatives don’t mind dictators a la Pinochet
I don’t think Conservatives would dare use the word “dictator” to describe the likes of Pinochet. After all, everybody knows that Pinochet brought the freedoms of the free market (best system in the world, best and most freest ever) to the oppressed Chilean people who were suffering under … checks notes … mild social democracy.
I could be wrong though, I’m sure there are some really violet chuds that would say he was a dictator and that was a good thing because leftist bad
Joe Biden was a communist.
Plenty of them do believe this
American conservatives are some of the dumbest motherfuckers you’ll ever meet
There’s a post going around Twitter rn where some American conservative was like “we were this close to communism” like “wow we dodged a bullet” lmao
A relative told me this recently
I was also repeatedly informed of this fact by a family member.
Exactly. They’ll say that the EU is communist because of Macron and that’s why we need to put tariffs on them.
necessary restraints on individual businesses that the liberal state imposes in order to stabilize the capitalist system. They attribute all of this to a shadowy conspiracy
I recently read a few pages into Proudhon’s Philosophy of Poverty. While most of it junk, it did contain one curious thing: that society moves according to laws independent of any individual person, and religion is used to explain this apparent external action upon society.
well the libarlas are all leftist for them so they do not and can not understand that their Oligarchy uses US Aid as a weapon aganst "leftist Regimes " , because for them the “deep State” ARE Leftist itself a “Autoritärian leftist Regime” , secretly plotting with china to take their FREEDOM. They also can not comprehent things that happen outside of their Control ,Meaning US control --> that would make them feel bad. So they conclude that that all this china rise etc. was actually just a conspiracy by CNN and other “Leftist” against them…
something like that ?
Me too
‘Kill them with kindness’ as Jesus said.
Put this in front of Elon quick! He’ll absolutely and unquestioningly believe it.
Oh it’s actually “Communism International Assistance” pack it up folks
Pinochet was woke!
These hogs are unbelievably idiotic
Is this just referring to Pol Pot?
I seriously doubt someone like this even knows who tf Pol Pot was
Maybe Shining Path too?
I sincerely doubt he knows about Shining Path or any other possible legit accusations like the Maoist red army faction in Italy.
The former who the CIA probably did infiltrate and the later we explicitly know they did (and impersonated)
And maybe Saddam Huessein (even though he was anti-communist) because of Baathism/Arab Socialism and he was Muslim (who are culturally communists to reactionaries).
We live in hell
Why would I listen to some pervert from the Bronze Age?
because he has 45% Proto-Indo-European blood, which means he’s more mixed than you
