Meta sparks privacy fears after unveiling $299 Smart Glasses with hidden cameras: ‘You can now film everyone without them knowing’::These stylish shades may look like a regular pair of Ray-Ban Wayfarers, but they’re actually Meta’s new Smart Glasses, complete with two tiny cameras and speakers implanted in the arms. The wearable tech was unveiled by Mark Zuckerberg Wednesday at the 2023 Meta Connect conference in Menlo Park, California, sparking a frenzy online.

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    The trick is now you can’t tell. Should it be illegal? Heck yes. Will it? “Hmm … technology, so important … innovation… privacy is dead anyway …. terrorism prevention… “

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      Should it be illegal?

      In the US, it’s been long held people do not have the “expectation of privacy” while out in public. One of the major issues that you’ve kinda touched on is how would it be enforced? So are you opposed to all forms of recording? Or is this more focused on a corporation potentially gathering data on people just by being in public where someone is wearing these?

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        IMO expectation of privacy is valid, but I believe people should also have the right to reasonably know if they’re being recorded. Recording people in public’s one thing if you have your phone out and are waving it around pointing it at people, but it’s a whole other thing if it’s a concealed or otherwise hidden recording device.

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          Ring doorbells, and the like, are everywhere. Hell, I had a bear cruise in the dog door a couple of years ago. Neighbors produced security cam pics and I had no clue they had cameras!

          At this point, we might as well assume we’re being recorded the moment we step out our front door.

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          It’s only valid in private venues. We don’t know when were being recorded now and have not really known for decades. This isn’t going to change anything on that front.

          But something to detect their emissions etc in private venues would be a good idea. That or deployable jamming for Bluetooth and WiFi etc on site.

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            It’s only valid in private venues. We don’t know when were being recorded now and have not really known for decades. This isn’t going to change anything on that front.

            Ya, and I think that’s something that should change. I should have the right to, within reason, be able to know I’m being recorded at any time.

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              It would be a nice to have. But there is no realistic way to do that. It is an unreasonable request. At any point in time when you are outside you are being observed by any number of satellites. Through any number of windows. From all number of arbitrary distances. You may as well request omniscience. Since you have an equal chance of obtaining it.

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          I just kind of assume my phone is going to give out more information than a camera ever could, so the very least those companies can do is give me access to that data.

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            There’s a difference between “on apple’s servers” and “a million people harassing you after being pulled into a Livestream against your will” though.

            Both are bad, one is worse.

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        I think we’re getting to the point where “expectation of privacy” and “expectation of not being uploaded” need to be separated.

        I fully agree with the idea that there should be no expectation of privacy in public, but I also don’t think filming some random person and posting them online should be carte blanche allowed.

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        In the US, it’s been long held people do not have the “expectation of privacy” while out in public.

        At the time it made sense. But laws need to change with the times. In the future you’ll have people wearing these shitty glasses with cameras all around you all day every day cataloging your movements and entering them into giant corporate data centers. Something needs to change.

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        Also in the US, there has been this bizarre expectation that “if it’s illegal, it will go away”, which is how we have this shitty War on (some) Drugs, “assault” “weapon” bans, and people thinking that we have to completely outlaw AI.

        The tech is here. It’s going to be legal. We just have to figure out how to deal with it.

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        Legally speaking, you pretty much consent to being recorded when you step outside your own private space as far as I know.

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      Why should it be illegal?

      It’s perfectly legal to photograph strangers in public. You’re in public you have no reasonable expectation of privacy.

      I don’t see people assaulting CCTV cameras for instance.

      Sure some weirdos might I use it for nefarious reasons but if it didn’t exist they would still be weirdos using something else.

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        People wear their glasses everywhere, including a variety of places where there is an expectation of privacy or where it is otherwise prohibited to record. Places where you would not be allowed to hold up your phone or camera and take photos.

        The introduction of tech that makes it impossible to distinguish between someone minding their own business and someone recording you demands a change to the legal framework. It doesn’t make sense to hold to laws that were written for an entirely different scenario.

        I don’t see people assaulting CCTV cameras for instance

        I’ve seen that fairly often, particularly around political protests, and I’ve never seen a CCTV camera in a public bathroom, locker room, etc.

        This tech is an inevitability and the potential legitimate uses are too valuable to ban it outright. But that doesn’t mean it should be treated exactly like a highly-visible camera or cell phone.

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          People wear their glasses everywhere, including a variety of places where there is an expectation of privacy or where it is otherwise prohibited to record.

          VERY solid point.

          The introduction of tech that makes it impossible to distinguish between someone minding their own business and someone recording you

          This isn’t new tech though. I can record on the down-low now and have been able to for some time.

          People attacking Glasses users are ignorant of this fact.

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          Primate bionic eye implants exist. Consider a future where they are good and look exactly like regular eyes.

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      How would banning these be enforceable though? They are only going to get more discreet, they will eventually appear completely indistinguishable from regular glasses.

      There are certain ways to detect cameras, such as monitoring for infrared, but that would not work for all camera tech and could be hard to triangulate to exact people in crowded areas. There are also ways to detect electronic devices on a person but doing so could quickly become just as invasive in other ways.

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        You don’t need the ban to be perfect. Especially if you go after manufacturers, not users. Make it harder for people to do uncouth things. Accessibility is a huge driver of people using things. You might not be able to stop everyone, but you can stop the majority of people.

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        Thermal cameras are surprisingly good at detecting things that use power. Defeat the camera with another camera 😉

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      I think some cameras will “pop out” on your screen if you take a picture of them, right?

      What a shitty future ahead of us. “Why are you taking a picture of me?!” “Because you’re wearing some suspicious glasses and I want to make sure that you are not recording me. Yup. There they are.”

      Edit: well, after seeing some pictures, you can still tell that the cameras are there. But you have to be looking for them, which is still shitty.