• kandoh@reddthat.com
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    1 year ago

    I don’t know many people these days who will ever talk favorably about a politician, because inevitably you’ll look like an idiot for it. But we’ll still vote for the guy.

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      1 year ago

      You act like that’s the voters fault…

      Not wanting either candidate but still voting for the lesser evil is basically our entire political system.

      And it’s the result of letting two “private parties” dominate our political landscape. We can’t elect who we want, we can only pick between two options that both side with corporate profits over citizens the vast majority of the time.

      And both parties love pointing out how primaries really don’t matter. They can run anyone they want in the general and we just have to deal with it.

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        1 year ago

        It’s not anyone’s ‘fault’. I’m just saying people have learned that even the politician you like the most will do something you and your social circle won’t approve of and people are aware of that more than ever because social media leaves a record behind now.

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          I’m just saying people have learned that even the politician you like the most will do something you and your social circle won’t approve of and people are aware of that more than ever because social media leaves a record behind now.

          I mean Bernie and AOC are two examples that leap to mind to disprove your opinion

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            1 year ago

            Bernie Sanders did not vote on an amendment to the Patriot Act that would have forbidden the government from secretly collecting information about internet browsing and search history data without a warrant. The amendment failed by one vote, and Sanders was one of four senators who did not vote on it.

            He also is a supporter of the F-35 program, which has a price tag of 1 trillion dollars.

            AOC is still new, and the day will come when she has to do something unpopular for the sake of her political career or some longer term goal.

            All I’m saying is, don’t put people on pedestals.

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              1 year ago

              Bernie Sanders did not vote on an amendment to the Patriot Act

              Can you be specific?

              https://www.sanders.senate.gov/press-releases/sanders-votes-against-patriot-act-extension/

              “I voted against extending the Patriot Act today for the same reason I voted against enacting it in 2001: it gives the government far too much power to spy on innocent United States citizens and provides for very little oversight or disclosure. While we must aggressively pursue international terrorists and all of those who would do us harm, we must do it in a way that protects the Constitution and the civil liberties which make us proud to be Americans.”

              That’s the only result I’m seeing… Maybe if you could give me the year if you can’t find an article?

              And the F35 stuff seems to be he got a base and manufacturing in Vermont… That was going to some east coast state, you’re making it sound like he pushed for the F35 to exist in the first place…