Seems like they locked the community in protest of recent .world TOS changes. Although I think a much better protest would be to simply refuse to enforce the changes they felt are unsatisfactory.
…or just migrate the community to another instance? Like why are we in the fediverse? Have people forgotten that if you don’t like a instance, you can just move to another one?
But it doesn’t? I moved from .world to .ml last year but I can still go to .world communities to argue with people, just like before. Migration actually should be the first choice.
This isn’t regarding a user, but where a community is being hosted.
Are all major community members in Lemmys that are federated to where the community is being moved?
What happens to the community’s data, since it won’t get carried over?
What prevents this issue from happening again in a new instance?
For a platform that is meant to communicate, it seems funny that a lot of people’s gut reactions to coordination problems is to cut all ties and leave.
Are all major community members in Lemmys that are federated to where the community is being moved?
Depends on where they move, doesn’t it? Obviously if a community moves to hexbear then .world users won’t be able to access it (and that’s .world’s fault). But there’s no need to do that? They can just move to a federated instance and stay connected.
What happens to the community’s data, since it won’t get carried over?
Does anything have to happen to that data? Why not just leave it behind as a record? I guess they could go through the effort of using a bot to repost everything in the new community if they wanted to preserve everything and not leave it on the old instance.
What prevents this issue from happening again in a new instance?
Pick a good instance and it won’t happen.
.world was always shit, anyone could have seen this coming. It’s always just been a reddit instance.
For a platform that is meant to communicate, it seems funny that a lot of people’s gut reactions to coordination problems is to cut all ties and leave.
Again, the whole point of federation is that we don’t cut all ties. It’s not like moving communities requires defederating from .world
And that requires a lot of coordination, both with the user base to make sure the jump goes well for them and probably with the admins of the instance they are jumping to in order to make sure this doesn’t happen again.
Pick a good instance and it won’t happen.
Up until a week ago, .world was acceptable. Then it wasn’t. People change and communities change. Without an attempt to even discuss policy, this is going to become a major problem that keeps growing.
Why not just leave it behind as a record?
Why would one instance keep the data from a group of people that left and whose community is now locked? Or maybe the admins give mod privileges to a different set of mods and now you’ve got two competing groups.
Again, the whole point of federation is that we don’t cut all ties
A community is intentionally destroying itself to make a new one somewhere else. That’s a larger impact than you are making it out to be.
Some communities will receive an immediate notice with a link to this new policy. The most egregious communities will comply, or their moderators will be removed from those communities.
Nothing like a good power trip from the admins. Even if mods are power tripping people can make a new community. This was a bad response by admins, they bowed to only the most vocal minority. Vast majority of people have been fine with the moderation on .world. only classy thing to do is to take it back and play it off like it was a trial run that didn’t work out
Seems like they locked the community in protest of recent .world TOS changes. Although I think a much better protest would be to simply refuse to enforce the changes they felt are unsatisfactory.
…or just migrate the community to another instance? Like why are we in the fediverse? Have people forgotten that if you don’t like a instance, you can just move to another one?
Migration as a first choice is rash.
It’s really not. The whole purpose of federation is that you can just go to whatever instance you like best.
Migration as a sub is rash since it involves moving a community of people.
But it doesn’t? I moved from .world to .ml last year but I can still go to .world communities to argue with people, just like before. Migration actually should be the first choice.
This isn’t regarding a user, but where a community is being hosted.
Are all major community members in Lemmys that are federated to where the community is being moved?
What happens to the community’s data, since it won’t get carried over?
What prevents this issue from happening again in a new instance?
For a platform that is meant to communicate, it seems funny that a lot of people’s gut reactions to coordination problems is to cut all ties and leave.
Depends on where they move, doesn’t it? Obviously if a community moves to hexbear then .world users won’t be able to access it (and that’s .world’s fault). But there’s no need to do that? They can just move to a federated instance and stay connected.
Does anything have to happen to that data? Why not just leave it behind as a record? I guess they could go through the effort of using a bot to repost everything in the new community if they wanted to preserve everything and not leave it on the old instance.
Pick a good instance and it won’t happen.
.world was always shit, anyone could have seen this coming. It’s always just been a reddit instance.
Again, the whole point of federation is that we don’t cut all ties. It’s not like moving communities requires defederating from .world
And that requires a lot of coordination, both with the user base to make sure the jump goes well for them and probably with the admins of the instance they are jumping to in order to make sure this doesn’t happen again.
Up until a week ago, .world was acceptable. Then it wasn’t. People change and communities change. Without an attempt to even discuss policy, this is going to become a major problem that keeps growing.
Why would one instance keep the data from a group of people that left and whose community is now locked? Or maybe the admins give mod privileges to a different set of mods and now you’ve got two competing groups.
A community is intentionally destroying itself to make a new one somewhere else. That’s a larger impact than you are making it out to be.
I gotta rash, man.
Not when it’s from a toxic instance like .world.
From the announcement in question:
Nothing like a good power trip from the admins. Even if mods are power tripping people can make a new community. This was a bad response by admins, they bowed to only the most vocal minority. Vast majority of people have been fine with the moderation on .world. only classy thing to do is to take it back and play it off like it was a trial run that didn’t work out