We’re talking about Ukraine’s obvious Nazi problem and you said this:
There is a goal here and it seems…like supporting Russia, a global superpower and aggressor, in a war against—what is being painted here as just a bunch of nazis. The unspoken message here is, “you don’t want to support a bunch of nazis. Go russia.”
This is classic whataboutism, a well known Soviet Communist Disinformatsiya technique. No one is saying Russia isn’t bad, but bringing that up doesn’t excuse what this conversation is about; it just distracts and provides cover for Ukrainian Nazis.
It says a lot that you managed to ignore everything else I said though. Please explain why in your comment, you made it seem like supporting Russia would be wrong. Keep in mind that your criticisms of Russia must make Russia’s actions worse than the actions of the United States. If criticizing Russia’s enemies means supporting Russia, then criticizing America’s enemies means supporting America, who is a greater evil to the world than Russia could hope to be. So from my POV and most people here, supporting Russia and criticizing their enemies simply makes more sense for leftists to be doing.
Progressive Liberals that think they’re leftists will claim they don’t support democrats but do everything they can to keep them in power because they’re the lesser evil to Trump and Republicans. I don’t want to simply assume for you that you follow “lesser evil” logic in politics, but if you do, you must admit that it is logical to support the lesser evil of Russia, China, and Iran against America, the most bloodthirsty empire in human history.
Lol please point to what you understand as “whataboutism” in what I said
We’re talking about Ukraine’s obvious Nazi problem and you said this:
This is classic whataboutism, a well known Soviet Communist Disinformatsiya technique. No one is saying Russia isn’t bad, but bringing that up doesn’t excuse what this conversation is about; it just distracts and provides cover for Ukrainian Nazis.
You brought up Russia unprompted.
It says a lot that you managed to ignore everything else I said though. Please explain why in your comment, you made it seem like supporting Russia would be wrong. Keep in mind that your criticisms of Russia must make Russia’s actions worse than the actions of the United States. If criticizing Russia’s enemies means supporting Russia, then criticizing America’s enemies means supporting America, who is a greater evil to the world than Russia could hope to be. So from my POV and most people here, supporting Russia and criticizing their enemies simply makes more sense for leftists to be doing.
Progressive Liberals that think they’re leftists will claim they don’t support democrats but do everything they can to keep them in power because they’re the lesser evil to Trump and Republicans. I don’t want to simply assume for you that you follow “lesser evil” logic in politics, but if you do, you must admit that it is logical to support the lesser evil of Russia, China, and Iran against America, the most bloodthirsty empire in human history.