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Cake day: June 25th, 2023

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  • also this is all horseshit so I know they haven’t thought this far ahead, but pushing a bit on the oracle problem, how do they think they solved these fundamental issues in their proposed design?

    • if verifying answers are correct is up to the miners, how do they prevent the miners from just generating any old bullshit using a much less expensive method than an LLM (a Markov chain say, or even just random characters or an empty string if nobody’s checking) and pocketing the tokens?
    • if verification is up to the requester, why would you ever mark an answer as correct? if you’re forced to pick one correct answer that gets your tokens, what’s stopping you from spinning up an adversarial miner that produces random answers and marking those as correct, ensuring you keep both your tokens and the other miners’ answers?
    • if answers are verified centrally… there’s no need for the miners or their models, just use whatever that central source of truth is.

    and of course this is avoiding the elephant in the room: LLMs have no concept of truth, they just extrude plausible bullshit into a statistically likely shape. there’s no source of truth that can reliably distinguish bad LLM responses from good ones, and if you had one you’d probably be better off just using it instead of an LLM.

    edit cause for some reason my brain can’t stop it with this fractally wrong shit: finally, if their plan is to just evenly distribute tokens across miners and return all answers: congrats on the “decentralized” network of /dev/urandom to string converters you weird fucks

    another edit: I read the fucking spec and somehow it’s even stupider than any of the above. you can trivially just spend tokens to buy a majority of the validator slots for a subnet (which I guess in normal cultist lingo would be a subchain) and use that to kick out everyone else’s miners:

    Only the top 64 validators, when ranked by their stake amount in any particular subnet, are considered to have a validator permit. Only these top 64 subnet validators with permits are considered active in the subnet.

    a third edit, please help, my brain is melting: what does a non-adversarial validator even look like in this architecture? we can’t fucking verify LLM outputs like I said so… is this just multiple computers doing RAG and pretending that’s a good idea? is the idea that you run some kind of unbounded training algorithm and we also live in a universe where model overfitting doesn’t exist? help I am melting


  • If you remember early bitcoin, some people would say it’s money, some people would say it’s gold. Some people would say it’s this blockchain … The way that I look at Bittensor is as the World Wide Web of AI.

    it’s really rude of you to find and quote a paragraph designed to force me to take four shots in rapid succession in my ongoing crypto/AI drinking game!

    How does Bittensor work? “When you have a question, you send it out to the network. Miners whose models are suited to answer your question will process it and send back a proposed answer.” The “miners” are rewarded with TAO tokens.

    “what do you mean oracle problem? our new thing’s nothing but oracles, we just have to figure out a way to know they’re telling the truth!”

    Bittensor is enormously proud to be decentralized, because that’s a concept that totally makes sense with AI models, right? “There is no greater story than people’s relentless and dogged endeavor to overcome repressive regimes,” starts Bittensor’s introduction page.

    meme stock cults and crypto scams both should maybe consider keeping pseudo-leftist jargon out of their fucking mouths

    e: also, Bittensor? really?


  • (Currently writing some book-like text on the AI bubble, with minimal crypto. I also have some book-like text on smart city scams, which has rather more bitcoin in it.)

    fuck yes

    AWS’ suggested upgrade path is Amazon Aurora PostgreSQL — which also does audit logs. So as usual, the answer to which database is: just use Postgres.

    it’s amazing how often Postgres is the sane implementation for a database-shaped problem, including a search engine just waiting for a competent ranking algorithm and a crawler (yes I’ve considered doing this)




  • having stealth-launched a full-blown web3 game last week called Champions Tactics: Grimoria Chronicles on PC.

    Champions Tactics is billed as a “PVP tactical RPG game on PC”, and is both developed and published by Ubisoft. It involves collectible figurines of various warriors from the in-game fantasy world of Grimoria, which players assemble into squads of three and then battle in turn-based combat that looks oddly reminscent of Darkest Dungeon, of all things.

    dear fuck this is incredibly generic. the game series is… Champions? of which this is a tactical installment and also the chronicles of Grimoria, a fantasy name so bland I can’t believe it’s not copyright infringement? this shit — name, concept, and all — definitely came from an LLM

    But fundamentally, Ubisoft’s perspective on the tech seems surprisingly bullish; the vice president of its Strategic Innovation Lab seems to think gamers just “don’t get it.”

    yeah! your target audience just refuses to get what you’re going for! I wonder what that’s called again? oh yeah, failure


  • …fucking hell I’ve got Netrunner on the brain. the card game about socialist hackers doing the best they can with what they can scrap together, organizing an economic war against extremely well-financed and terrifyingly powerful but inefficient corporations that almost own the entire world and will if you don’t single-handedly stop them

    and as if that wasn’t cyberpunk enough, modern Netrunner is completely free and built on a game system and concept appropriated from Fantasy Flight after they let the game go out of print (though you can pay a reasonable price for good-quality printed cards, and they adopted roughly Fantasy Flight’s seasonal model that lets you do a MtG style deckbuilder without the greed elements, which is very nice)

    e: and Musk is quoted in the other thread like “huh huh huh we all want cyberpunk right but just the duster not the other parts” and it’s like motherfucker a used duster’s normal hazard protection for a dying earth, ask me how I know, and all the other parts of any cyberpunk that’s worth a damn are about how much you fucking suck