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Cake day: October 31st, 2025

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  • Are you saying the article author is just being ungenerous,or misquoting him entirely? Because it seems from the quotes presented like he did not say that new contributors are likely to be LLM slop, just that if their contributions are of “low quality” (subjectively) they should receive low priority. Amid the mountains of AI slop this means humans attempting to learn will likely be ignored and receive no (human) review. For the Linux kernel on its vaunted high horse, that may be acceptable or even desirable, but for open source in general it’s not, and for open source projects trying to be free of corporate capture, a more pro-social approach is needed.

    I feel like you’ve either misread Linus’ orientation towards LLMs or the author’s usage of the word slop if you think there’s any chance of a moratorium on LLM patches at this stage, when they are not only already happening en masse, but removing the requirement that they even be disclosed.

    The author is certainly not looking favorably on Linus’ statements, and they say a few things which give me pause about their accuracy and knowledge level, but overall I find myself agreeing

    I found this bit interesting:

    Torvalds added that he does not want to scare off people who want to write code; his message is that you have to either put in the effort to learn, or put a lot of money into an LLM to participate.

    … Torvalds and others repeatedly said low-quality contributions from new developers should receive low priority, and that the community should stop trying to make contribution easy.

    All the corporate contributors are the primary ones coming in with a wave of LLM slop code, breaking the social structures that made the patch review process function, not just the random people from the internet who are more easily ignored. Ive seen it in reality, the author is correct at least about the breakdown of processes precipitated by slop just leading to more LLM usage. No human has an inherent desire to write thoughtful or helpful reviews for and teach a machine that cannot learn and does not think. Interacting with such is a very degrading experience, IMO.

    Turning away randos coming in with poorly written patches was always part of the gig, but the influx of those was also a lot lower when it was just humans submitting them.


  • Youre right about quality but the problem isn’t just code quality, its also the sheer volume of code and its unmaintainability. Quality has always been pretty low in commercial software, but there were practical limits to how much of it could be created, and with enough labor thrown at testing and maintenance, as you say it clanked on.

    When it’s easier to just generate a whole new page in the UI than fix bugs or make usability improvements though, when it’s easier to generate a whole new separate app than to introduce a new feature into the existing one, and when completely nontechnical people are running around doing this stuff without understanding the consequences, risks, etc. I think its very fair to describe it as a dark age. Large parts of the industry and the world are already there in the thick of it, and it is bad.

    Social structures will adapt but that won’t bring back the old way of doing things or reduce reliance on AI, if anything it will entrench it further, until/unless costs become prohibitive




  • They’re doing their best to make hardware keys suck too

    I’m literally a professional and ““passkeys”” (FIDO2) still fuck me over every 2 weeks or so despite me intentionally never using them

    want to use your yubikey in U2F mode to sign into the google account you configured it as a 2nd factor for on a new machine? TOO BAD, microsoft windows has decided you must use FIDO2, with a PIN, and even then it’s just going to give you a cryptic error about “hardware key not recognized”. (and yes I know, my fault for using windows, but every so often I have to, it’s not my daily driver)

    Same problem on Android, the FIDO2 rollout utterly broke U2F, and FIDO2 is an overcomplicated turd that isn’t a direct replacement for U2F and has limited support from sites/services…

    And that’s on top of the issues OP is experiencing, which is MFA rollouts being done without user consent, often in invasive and insidious ways (vendor lock in is everywhere), or in ways that actually reduce security rather than raise it (looking at paypal here, among other sites)

    All this to say, yubikeys are pretty good but they definitely won’t stop you from pulling your hair out about 2FA


  • In addition to the fact that he’s clearly making money just fine and clearly just taking any opportunity to shit on his young employees/telling them what to say… Let’s see how full of shit this guy is:

    Based on the size of that cambro, it looks like that’s at most 5L of very fancy chocolate “chips”, which with the density of chocolate chips, comes out to less than a quarter of the $405 per 20kg he cited, probably under $80

    The bread slicer is currently $5000 on webstaurantstore. Maybe 5400 with tax

    That particular vanilla paste is expensive but… Can be had for $50 for 16 oz at Costco. In larger bulk it would certainly be possible to get a little cheaper

    The $14000 custom dish line I have no reference for, but if it weren’t custom made it genuinely might be less than 10% of that.

    In addition to it being an utterly pointless gotcha to start with, my man exaggerated whenever there was opportunity.