The centralized services always shut down in the end. This is why I am pushing so hard for people to just learn how to use Haveno. Once you get used to it, it’s awesome and you don’t have to worry about it just vanishing one day since it’s a decentralized p2p network similar to bisq.

That’s nice to hear! Yeah I’ve been doing alright too. I always keep pushing things down the road but I actually recorded something (its trash though, gotta re-record). I’ve prepared VMs for it already, probably recording it this weekend.

Hi Kitty, must have been 2-3 years since I last saw you around. You doing alright?

First of all, I don’t really care where people get their Monero. It’s a fungible asset.

Sorry the first reply was so hostile. Last few weeks have been pretty stressful and I interpreted you mentioning specifically me by name as some sort of backhanded attack :/

Haveno already runs on tor, imo it’s a bit strange to want to run it on Tails, which isn’t designed for that kind of usage. If you are already going to be schizo, at least go all out and do a proper Qubes setup. Nobody can tell me that they NEED to run it on tails when they are incapable of just figuring out how the script needs to be adjusted (bcs let’s be honest, most likely all you have to do is swap out 1 version number in the script). I’d assume that you don’t want to run it on tails because you actually know how you’d benefit from it, instead I’d think you just heard tails is “the safest option” and because it is “the safest option”, you assume that it has priority over literally anything else. That’s why, in my opinion, Tails support is and should not be a deal-breaker priority.

xmr_unlimited said “you also have users that need their spoons to be spoon fed” and imo those guys should stick to an OS that is designed for it. If you don’t know what you’re doing, you are more likely to fuck up trying to run Havneo on tails vs just running it on Ubuntu. Sure, ideally all releases are well-tested and issue-free on all platforms but getting annoyed that the custom install solution isn’t instantly available after an update ain’t it (and “calling out” others to comment on that ain’t it either).

Edit: Sorry, didn’t see you already pinged me about this 4 days ago but I missed it. In that case the “calling out” is not an issue.

Just reposting the release notes here for anyone that missed it. I really like the custom info boxes because you can put contact info in there, which will make it way easier to actually take the 0% deposit offers. There are some lag-spikes for me on Windows but I believe a patch is already in the pipeline. We will probably get a bunch of fixes in 1.0.20

Too bad, good thing we have a high-quality livestream for the talks :)

I could be wrong but, based on the limited documentation, it looks to me like they hold on to the Monero and then send it out when someone claims the voucher. Think of it like a fully centralized second layer (since you can essentially transfer Monero without on chain transactions, even if you have to trust that the admins won’t just run with all the Monero from non-spent vouchers). I don’t really see the point of this because Monero is already very inexpensive to move on the base layer and you are trusting the admins to never touch the idle Moneros.

Not saying that it can’t have any usecases, for example: it would be easy to hand out a bunch of vouchers at events (and these guys are sponsors of this year’s Monerokon 😜).

I use it for spending and to store value.

It is up more than 2x since the binance delisting last year and has outperformed Bitcoin, anyone saying Monero can’t work as a store of value is wrong. Because it’s so stable, it works even better. During this week’s crash I was not very worried because I knew XMR is rising in price die to its utility, not from speculation, and this crash did not impact its utility in the slightest.

No, there are now 0% deposit offers. You currently need to figure out how to get in contact with a seller beforehand though, the next update will add contact information to the offers which will make them a lot more useful.

Looks scammy to me. Just use Haveno.

Negative. Every single one of them has some massive red flags that make them nonviable.

There has been a bunch of drama specifically about this CCS. Reto was censored because Kewbit believes I run it (lol) and wanted to “punish” me for demanding source code before CCS payout.

There is an open PR to raise this limit.

Currently there is no layman-friendly way of going XMR -> BTC with unstoppableswap so very few people actually provide liquidity in that direction and the fees they take are high because of it.

The Samourai atomic swaps GUI was on the right track to solve this with a XMR provider GUI but they got taken down just a few weeks after they released it.

If we get code out of this to easily set up such online token vending machines there is actually a lot of utility to be gained. People could use it for all sorts of stuff like NFT tickets or raffles or whatever:

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Unless you have to use centralized sites like these for some reason, please use Haveno instead. Adopting the decentralized option now before Monero is banned everywhere is much better for the community than monkey-branching from centralized site to centralized site every time they delist Monero.

People could theoretically put their reto .onion onto their profile or sign it with their pgp key and then you can search for it in the client.

I have these plus some extra ones all in a wallet I’d be willing to part with for 5 XMR.

For me, https://haveno-reto.com has been working great so far.