Yeah I’ve been having similar thoughts.

2014-2020 or so was a period of significant ideological change & realignment in the US in a number of ways, but now things have kind of reached a new equilibrium, so the current ideological terrain is probably what we’re going to have for a while. I think this is mostly because the internet & social media reached maximum penetration around 2014, and the 2014-2020 period was just the US’s ideological terrain adjusting to that step change.

(Admittedly, I also might be biased because 2014-2020 is also basically the period when I was 18-25 years old, so of course it seemed to me like a lot of things were in flux)

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It’s not even the first time someone has done this experiment, lol

lmfao I didn’t even know that half of it

That’s not what I was getting at. I was assuming that people who come across this post would already know that Israel oppresses non-Jews. My point is that it gets even worse than that: the non-Jews are the numerical majority, so the whole thing is more egregious than many Americans might be aware.

I guess I do think a numerical majority being subjugated is more noteworthy in some ways than a numerical minority.

I brought it up because it kind of disproves the idea that “Jews have a special relationship with that region and/or are uniquely entitled to it.” They’re not even the majority there currently! And they weren’t in 1948 either.

In their perception, Britain turned against the Zionists around 1939 or so (White paper) and sided with the Arabs in opposing a Jewish state after that. So they mean “Independence” as independence from Britain.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_insurgency_in_Mandatory_Palestine

I can actually recall a third time, as well

What the hell does “self-determination” even mean? I feel like since 10/7 we’ve all been gaslit into the idea that “self-determination” is some obvious, uncontroversial thing

Free Palestine

(Bum-Bum-Bum)

From the river to the sea

THE SEA

THE SEA

ba-da-ba-da-ba

Thanks everyone for the responses. I’ve learned a lot, and I’m sorry for any offense I caused.

Thank you for this response, and for your other ones in this thread as well.

This passage in particular really gave me some needed perspective:

There are no “uncontacted tribes”, everyone has been in touch with their neighbors the whole time, for as long as there have been humans. Every part of the world, except Antarctica and a very small number of islands, has been inhabited by humans a very long time, with Polynesia being one of the last places humans arrived at a few thousand years ago. Humans have been in NA for at least 30,000 years, Australia for at least 40k but probably longer, in Europe for at least 50k. Even the famous North Sentinelese have had more and less contact with their neighbors over prior centuries. Their current closed borders are a modern policy decision made by a modern people choosing how to interact with other people in the modern world.

(Although I didn’t mention them directly, the Sentinelese definitely were one of the things I had lingering in my mind when I posted my OP, so I’m glad you said something about them)

thanks for the book recs, they’re on my list now.

I didn’t know that, but that is interesting

this was clarifying, thanks

the Canadian Shield

I wish homeownership wasn’t so important in the US.

I’m probably going to buy a house at some point because it’s what makes sense given how our society is currently set up, but really I wish I could just rent an apartment for the same as (or marginally more than) what it costs to maintain & insure an apartment. If I could do that then I wouldn’t really give a shit about owning a home.

An abortion is when the doctor yanks the 36-week fetus out by its umbilical cord and then whips it against the table a bunch of times to kill it

The orca attacks are back