Yea I ate the onion too…. I don’t blame you…

How about Carbon-Cringe lifeform

I think corporations will just pass on the cost to the consumers if they don’t get subsidies lol.

Given our reliance on it it’s a lot more than just basic supply and demand

And FYI I drive a Toyota myself, it’s handmade in a special factory and the fit and finish is absolutely horrible.

But somehow within the Toyota and the greater car community people always give it a pass because it’s a ToyOTa

I’ve checked them out in the showroom, the fit and finish when they’re not built like shit is actually alright.

I personally have never ever noticed Teslas which YUUUUUGE panel gaps either. And they are popular where I live.

They are decent cars still like I said. Talking about the base model. You cannot possibly find a better EV or RWD car at that budget where I live.

Even a base C200 or 320i cost a lot more than the base model 3. Like 25-40% as much. If that is not decent I don’t know what is.

they have higher than reported number of build failures, such as presence of panel gap but that does not indicate ALL of them come like that.

McLaren and Maseratis spring to mind, and have similar traits. It does not make them shit cars at all.

lol, do you mean panel gaps? that has more to do with manufacturing process. I’m more referring to the features they provide for the price they’re selling at. They’re decent.

I can assure you, cars can get a lot less decent than Teslas… Korean cars in the early 2000s for example…

Pretty sure we will destroy ourselves first with war or some other climate disasters first

depending on where you live, here in Australia some states have very strong tax incentive. So strong to the point whereby even an Accord or Sonata is priced similarly. For those that do not care about all these dramas or the technicalities of ownership the Model Y and 3 are both really good cars.

i personally wouldn’t get one tho, if i had spend so much money i’ll probably save a bit more and get a used GR Supra or Civic Type R.

over the course of 30 years*. people rarely keep cars for that long, let alone an EV. by year 10 most EVs will be clapped as fuck you might just have to sell it for scrap metal

fact is Teslas still represent good value if you’re just after a base Model Y and 3. they’re are OK, average, decent.

fit and finish is far from German counterparts but if you don’t care, and don’t want a Chinese EV either you’re left with Tesla.

The products are decent. Just that there are a lot more competitions that make much better cars.

Maybe AliExpress drones is scarier, the fact that it’s so harmless and so lethal is equally scary 😂😂😂

Eh drone is just cost effective version of CAS. I think most modern jets bomber/fighter could carry out precision strikes without you ever seeing or hearing them.

Or going in loud and proud A10 style also works, that shit is scarier lol

I hope the sea wasn’t too choppy for him

when I rode through thunderstorm last time it kept hitting my balls.

Had to stand up lol.

Next day it felt like somebody gave me cock and ball torture or sth 🤣🤣

That’s the top speed lol. I rented a jet ski once, 130bhp and it could do 70kmh. At that speed it’s super tiring lol

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yeah i know until some fuckers started spamming me non-stop on a relatively minor issue, like it’s the type that you read and say : hmmm ok, the more you know.

yes, we can all play our part. reduce usage of cars at least? or take public transport more that’s what i’m doing.

CAUSE IM MAKING FOOD AND EATING. WTH.

i already have ya creep

you’re resorting to ad-hominem but you’re accusing me of engaging in “bad-faith” discussion WHEN you are the relentless one hounding me non-stop. I’m fucking eating my guy, you expect me to engage you like a keyboard warrior at a moments notice? i don’t ahve to work or eat or do other adult stuff?