Have you forgotten that Iran was once an Israeli ally, or that Israel once held Lebanon as a puppet?

When did Israel “hold” Lebanon?

Hamas was made in large part due to Israel interference in Gazas politics as was the PLO.

Were either Hamas or the PLO allies of Israel? If the PLO was the ally of Israel then why did they kill the entire Israeli Olympics team in Munich?

Peace was never the goal of Israel

Peace has always been the goal of Israel. The elimination of all Jews has always been the goal of Hezbollah and Hamas and they’ll die for it.

2,800 injured (according to the Lebanon health minister, not Hezbollah - and no data on how many were associated with hezbolla)

The article states that his figures are coming from Hezbollah.

You posted a description of an ambulance, down to the color of its lights and the presence of people standing nearby looking on.

What was the relevance of that?

It’s hundreds of explosions, some of which were in cars (presumably causing car accidents) and crowded areas.

A person injured in a crowded area would be rapidly attended to and accounted for, especially by now, two days later.

If there’s an unaccounted victim, it’s somebody off by themselves with a Hezbollah pager and thus not a civilian. So this argument actually works against you.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2kn10xxldo

Because you were claiming the explosions were too small to “bruise and apple”

ok, and how is that refuted by the physical description of an ambulance?

en. Its not like the numbers of victims are still unknown or unaccounted for.

How many are those? Why would there be any unaccounted victims at all?

Not Israel nor the Israeli people will ever know peace as long as Israel exists as an extension of the American Empire.

We’ll know peace because everyone like you, everyone who won’t accept a Jewish state in the Middle East, will fight until you die. And you’ll lose.

Peace comes at the end of war.

The idea that we have to tolerate intolerance is an incorrect resolution of the paradox.

But I’m saying we shouldn’t tolerate intolerance. You’re the one saying we have to.

There has been quite a lot of collateral civilian casualties, how many more people must die

None, if Israel’s enemies surrender and end the war. That’s how war works.

A collateral civilian death during a military action has never been considered “murder.” It can’t be, since it’s unintentional.

Well, if you subtract the Hezbollah casualties from the total casualties, there’s hardly any casualties left.

Are you asking for a source for arithmetic, or something?

I can’t have sympathy for murderous antisemites

I did back it up. I can’t make people read it, though

Defense of Israel is effectively banned on Lemmy

The source is Hezbollah. As I’ve told you.

That particular pager was in a bag, against a person, pointed away from anyone or anything else.

Where else would you carry a pager? You have to feel it when it vibrates.

Not to mention anything of the second attack, which used much larger charges and started fires and blew out windows across Lebanon.

Well, I’m sorry to hear that Lebanon’s glazers just got several months of guaranteed work, I guess, but I’m otherwise not sure why this is relevant.

And anyway, a single example isn’t going to assuage anyone who has been reading reports of women and children dying from the attack.

What reports?

Didn’t you say they were the ones who reported your non-Hezbollah casualty figure though?

I don’t have any “non-Hezbollah casualty figures.” I’m assuming that any casualties Hezbollah doesn’t claim are the civilians.

You could just link to what you’re talking about

I’m still not understand what you’re finding unclear.

Ok, and what does this refute? I haven’t claimed there to be zero civilian casualties, but it’s currently fewer than one in one thousand.

Again, I’ve posted video. Why would I believe that could harm anyone but the bearer?

I’m assuming that, out of the total reported casualties, the ones Hezbollah doesn’t claim are the civilians. Can you explain your issue with that reasoning?

I’ll grant that there may be Hezbollah casualties that Hezbollah won’t publicly claim, but that would strengthen my case, not yours.