

That’s ok. It’s ok to be wrong.
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I mean they are both really annoying.
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That’s ok. It’s ok to be wrong.
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I mean they are both really annoying.
Same for everyone with fillings.


(It’s photoshopped in paint)


Still quite a thing. Though probably slower than ever since programs have increasingly more trips back and forth with the display server, and with x11 every one of them has to transit the connection. With an 8ms ping to a server, I expect programs to take 10-30s to start, 5-10s to open dropdown menus, and ~3s+ to scroll. I’m quite happy waypipe is a thing, I mostly ditched ssh -X voluntarily to avoid all this, though sometimes suffering a slow program for a few minutes is still faster than installing waypipe when setting up a new system.


For UDP you’d also usually reencode packets as http3 warp ones […]
Is this similar to when you mask it as webrtc?
Sorry I probably meant QUIC not warp. It is related, I think webrtc now usually uses quic, so masking as quic or webrtc are probably synonymous, but honestly I don’t know enough about the details to say for sure.
Something other than DAITA?
I know people in Russia are reporting Mullvad gets fully blocked, so I don’t think DAITA is enough. As @chimp@lemmy.dbzer0.com mentioned, Hysteria is more in the right direction, though in more modern iterations/forks and together with another layer of obfuscation.
I don’t generally like to shout out names too much, since popularity among those that don’t need the tools makes them more cracked down upon for people that do need them. So I’ll just say that for the less obfuscated but more responsive route via rtc you use an updated hysteria as the outer layer, containing a fully homogeneous encrypted stream from a tool named after a reptile.
As per the GDPR or something else?
Mainly Net neutrality rules. Net neutrality just barely allows basic DPI, though it already heavily restricts what ISPs can actually do with that inspection. Wikipedia: EU net neutrality violations. Note that the 2007 case there happened well before regulations were strictened.


Btw. for now you can also still use X for this, it works just fine via xWayland on wayland desktops, and programs still generally support both x11 and wayland.


It is still unclear whether Huang also had a sexual relationship with the Russian spy.


Size and timing of packets. Protocols generally have consistent patterns, so say always 6 packets with the last 3/4ths filled. Then some keepalive at regular intervals (i.e. tracker updates), establising new peer connections, …
Luckily this deep inspection is illegal for isps in the eu.
Russia, China, and Iran are using the patterns to effectively block all normal VPN and proxy protocols. There, people need special tools that send fake packets, randomize timing, and split and group packets into different sizes. All of course decreasing speed and increasing latency.
For UDP you’d also usually reencode packets as http3 warp ones so it looks like a video call.
Then the other end needs the same tooling to restore the normal packets.
Obfuscating it would be possible if necessary, but it’s better when you aren’t forced to maintain such an obfuscation stack.


Is there an equivalent other than remote access?
Yes, there is waypipe. Very close analog to ssh -X, arguably better. Even lets me access my local clipboard in wl-copy/wl-paste commands on the remote.
It’s not part of ssh though, so needs to be installed on server and client.
I found waypipe to be way more responsive than X11, and just … better somehow. More integrated into the other programs.
When using it, take care that pam is enabled in sshd. Else it won’t initialize the proper xdg environment which wayland stuff doesn’t like.


that can work anywhere
prob more people using KDE now than X11 ;)
Universal stuff for those (under wayland) compositor-specific functionalities kinda became impossible when wayland became standard.
In some cases there’s tools that support kwin, mutter, and wlroots, which is now as close to universal as you can probably get for things without standardized wayland api.


Worse than the generic X11 one though?


wayland dwms can and do absolutely implement that. For example kwin has a setting to let programs access keyboard input in the X11 way for the old method of global shortcuts. And to disable the framebuffer for fullscreen games.
If you wanted, you could probably write a wayland compositor that has all the X11 apis that old management tools use. Wayland is just an api at the end of the day.


For instance multi window apps can’t tell the compositor where to put their windows
They can have positions lf existing windows saved and restored (still rolling out), and I think can ask for some details of initial placement outside of that too.
Of course still very limited and not handling the specific cases you mentioned.
registering global hotkeys
Setting up hotkeys is possible, just in a very different way. You have to have the desktop environment forward it, and for now specifics differ from de to de. Generally they can all bind actions though. A safe minimum-viable way should be to add shortcuttable actions to the desktop file I think, though the qt shortcut stuff should also generally work I think.
overscan correction
kwin at least has had that for a while
Personally for me I used to have a script invoked by tilting the sceoll wheel that’d send a shortcut (e.g. ctrl+page-up/down) to the window under the cursor without focussing it, letting me change tabs of unfocussed windows.
I think I did that by quickly changing input focus, sending it, then changing it back, with xdotool etc…
On wayland I’ve tried implementing that via kwin scripting a few times, but found it so hard to debug and to work with in comparison I never managed to recreate that simple tool.
Having universal posix-like tools to affect the window manager and user input from console is definitely something I miss occasionally.
Largely this is just a lack of wayland tools I am sure. And I must admit it’s been a while since I last tried.
Well prevent abuse that was also prevented from requiring phone numbers …
Not like those are perfect, just less bad than email.


4h at full speed. Uncapped is effectively an 8TB cap, so they delivered 0.6% of what they were supposed to.
My grandma has a plan like this and visiting her for less than a week detonates her (hidden) cap just from my phone backing up its apps.
My home internet sits at multiple TB a month despite backups etc. not even running through it since it syncs to my local nas on the same network.
On 50GB you coulnd’t even install a large game.


I’ve asked the author and they responded
[my question, translated]
Hi,
just a quick question about the 2nd latest blog-article “Five daemons or one binary” “Postfix and friends against Stalwart, tested side by side”:
[…] and it came into discussion if/in which way it was written/translated using AI/LLMs?
[response, german, translated by me]
Hi,yes I use LLMs as support. But I test everything properly/carefully, [and then also(?)] by hand. I only trust the output after tests and when I understand it.
I released the tests for Stalwart today. https://www.behindtheconsole.com/2026/11/11/testing-stalwart-before-trusting-it-with-mail-the-test-catalogue/
Cheers, -mat-.
Someome still plowed the entire thing through ai for whatever reason. It’s watermarked.
The plug goes on the credit of the ruined quality then which makes the chair unrecognizable without knowing it. And the movie makers picking the buttplug-chair.
The papers fold over too. And unnaturally quickly I’d say. The way the cup tips over and back looks even less natural.
If you skip around the video, you can see the window slowly moves left the entore time.
The way things “tip” and gravity shifts make no sense with the slow acceleration of a massive boat and how slowly it would rotate.
The way the wave breaks like on a shore, even though this is on the ocean clearly.
The way containers get attached they either don’t move or break loose entirely, but in the video they get pushed around a bit.
I’m pretty sure it’s complete slop.
We really can’t have nice things anymore.
A person would have snuck in 100 creative icons, but now we just get weirdly aligned copies of the same 5 icons
Xfce does support wayland, though in earlier stages than most, who had it somewhat stable it for like 3-4 years now. Xfce started experimentally with 4.20, and should be stabelizing it right now. If you update to 4.22 unstable it might just work just fine.