InappropriateEmote [comrade/them, undecided]

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  • smuglord

    He knows all about what makes value, and understands history and how it unfolded, proving him right again and again. Marxists have never really thought about value before, and history? Marxists have been shown to be wrong over and over again. It’s just history, Marxists, sorry if you don’t have any framework to understand it.

    This one is really causing me to twitch. Usually this kind of thing doesn’t get to me, but the deep smugness behind the sheer ignorance, the smarmy certainty in their beliefs that are the exact absolute opposite of reality - it doesn’t get more pure than this.


  • It’s a perfectly valid journalistic choice.

    The temporary raising of albedo from eruptions is not relevant since it does not last, it doesn’t exist on the relevant time scales. Volcanic cooling does happen (even in recent recorded history!) but it’s very short-lived. Any aerosols injected into the atmosphere by volcanism (what is what causes the cooling) typically only lasts for a few years, as a general rule, not more than a decade, while warming from greenhouse gases is persistent and cumulative. It’s not something that is worth mentioning as any kind of genuine mitigating factor. Just like the people hoping that nuclear winter from another world war would offset climate change. It won’t, it just makes things even more chaotic on a short time scale without actually helping the problem at all on any time scale that matters.

    A “volcanic ice age” would be short, maybe nasty, catastrophic for agriculture and civilization, but it would not help us, it wouldn’t do anything to solve the underlying problem of anthropogenic warming. Once the aerosols clear, the warming resumes, but now with added CO2 from the eruptions. So yeah, perfectly appropriate that the article doesn’t go into that.

    (edit: changed the word “lowering” to “raising” which is what I meant - I’m tired.)




  • The “lazy” people you think are living off of your work get a tiny pittance of the taxes you pay, nearly the entirety of which only go to reproducing the economic system that rewards those who do not work but claim to, simply by virtue of their “ownership” of the things everyone needs to live a bare minimum survival. It is these non-working “owners” who live in obscene opulence and have unrestrained power over us all, dictating to us that we must toil while they only reap. The value you actually produce is being stolen from you by those same “owners,” and not even the table scraps are afforded those at the bottom struggling to survive in a system that is built around their poverty which serves a threat to all workers if they do not fall in line. The leeches are at the top, not the bottom. You absolutely should be enraged by those leeching off your work, but you’ve misidentified who the leeches are.



  • It is a safe assumption that a majority of current US scientists who leave will most likely go to Europe, yes. But long term that’s a relatively small piece of the brain drain issue compared to which countries will end up producing more (and better-educated) scientists in the coming years. It’s not just a matter of the ones that already exist going elsewhere, it’s that there is so much less incentive and ability for a person to become a scientist in the US than there used to be while there is significant incentive and ability to become a scientist in China. I expect the incentive in the EU is also going to rapidly deteriorate, so the influx of US scientists there is just a postponement of brain drain in the west as a whole.







  • There is no benefit for the Ukrainians to do this.

    The benefit is to harm Russia at any and all cost and if they can achieve that, they see it as well worth it. Ukraine was never in a winning position yet they have been the ones committing war crime upon war crime upon war crime literally from the very start of this conflict (and depending on when you define it “beginning,” they have been doing it from before the start and this is largely what necessitated Russia’s intervention in the first place). Meanwhile, Russia has been highly, even shockingly restrained when it comes to taking actions with high potential to cause civilian harm. When you honestly compare how Russia has waged this war in terms of risk to civilian life to what the west (including Ukraine) has done in military operations and wars in the past handful of decades, Russia comes out as almost kind, looking like the benevolent “peacekeepers” that NATO always tried to paint themselves to their own respective domestic populaces. (This isn’t to say warcrimes haven’t been committed by Russian forces, particularly before Wagner was dismantled, but they are not systemic and are not at the scale of, for example, wiping out civilian infrastructure).

    This isn’t just a “Russia good and Ukraine bad” thing (though we shouldn’t forget that current Ukraine is literally a Nazi-led project) but there are very obvious material reasons why this is the case. Like TreadOnMe pointed out, Russia came to the aid of what were essentially militias formed from Ukrainian civilians who were fighting in resistance of their own ethnic cleansing by the Ukrainian government. Russia knows that the territories it has been fighting over will be its responsibility to maintain and rebuild so destroying the infrastructure there and making enemies of the people who live there are not at all in Russia’s best interests. This is a major stumbling block for the libs who constantly want to believe Russia is just a bunch of orcs hellbent on domination and conquest: material reality does not fit the idealist narrative they need to believe in.

    Just because Ukraine commits war crimes repeatedly (as they have) and even as a normal order of operation, that does not mean that Russia will then be compelled to do the same as a tit-for-tat. There are certain lines that when crossed, Russia does have to respond to, but that doesn’t mean they have to respond with commensurate cruelty to civilians. And they haven’t.



  • There are two things going on here causing confusion and the first is the misuse and misunderstanding of the word socialism. DeathsEmbrace is using it to mean something more like the “nordic model” safety net thing but applied to the corporations. It’s incorrect but it’s a common early leftist pitfall. It’s the “socialism for the bourgeoisie/corporations but not for the workers” thing. It’s not actually incorrect analysis - the government does provide a social safety net for the bourgeoisie and will always come to their rescue in a capitalist country. That is true, but it’s a misnomer and misleading to call this “government socialism” or “socialism for the rich” because socialism is not “government does stuff” or “government comes to the rescue,” rather it’s worker control over the means of production. “Socialism for the owners” is nonsensical when you actually understand these terms. As Marxists we know this is simply how capitalism works and is not a special case within capitalism that is only just now happening with things like the 2008 bailouts. Again, it’s not wrong pointing out that the state rescued all the banks to the detriment of working people while simultaneously refusing to help the working people. But it’s a mistake to associate that with the word socialism, even in a “socialism for the rich” sort of way, a mistake that is often made because the general public were never educated about what socialism really is.

    The other issue is the difference between what capitalists say neoliberalism is (when they even use the word neoliberalism, which is less often since it is usually a pejorative) and what neoliberalism actually is. This means there are going to be conflicting definitions. RedWizard is absolutely right that it is very much about further leveraging the state on the behalf of capital to more completely dominate over labor. As Marxists we know they were always doing this, but neoliberalism is still a ramping up using new policies specifically tailored to better addressed the the world order given modern global imperialism. DeathsEmbrace is just plain wrong here if they think neoliberalism is simply ultra laissez-fair capitalism. Neither side defines it like that.

    Not to be too pedantic, but the first quote RW used actually backs up DE’s mistaken position. RW is right of course, but that quote is not a good one to use to prove the point. “Neoliberalism is contemporarily used to refer to market-oriented reform policies such as […] reducing […] state influence in the economy.” That definition you quoted is doing the “reducing big government” thing. They want us to think their neoliberal policies are “keeping big government from controlling the free economy!” after all, big government control is what they want you to think the “totalitarian” communists do, when in fact the ruling class is of course using the government to control the economy, just on behalf of and for the benefit of themselves, the capitalists.

    I know that you know all this, RedWizard, and I’m not trying to educate you on any of it, I just saw an argument going on that I think might boil down to mostly semantics. I am just trying to sus out those semantic differences and maybe help out any lurkers, especially from other instances, who don’t necessarily know this stuff.

    As for you, @DeathsEmbrace@lemm.ee, humans can and do “do economy” just fine, even brilliantly in some cases. Some of them “do economy” such that it further enriches a tiny select few, and some of them “do economy” to uplift a population and increase the quality of life of the masses. Both have been done with great success.

    don’t take this argument to “reality” or you’re axbout to get an education on what the real purpose of rich communism is.

    Oh STFU. I was trying to be charitable, even generous regarding your misunderstandings because I thought you might be a new leftist who means well. Maybe I was wrong. Either way, you’re clearly the one here who needs an education, even on such basics as the meaning of the words you’re trying to use.





  • UPDATE

    Damn, I had been looking forward to answers to a bunch of the great questions that were posed. I’m really curious what specifically made him mad, though. Like,

    one of the questions I gave him threw him off and kinda put him in a bad mood

    Which question was it? And when he said “who would ask such stupidity?” was it about that particular question or the things you were asking him in general?

    I don’t really know what he was expecting but he seems to think the questions weren’t good enough.

    I’m sure it will be apparent when you post the 5 detailed answers he did give, but I think it would have been good if we had known beforehand what kind of general sentiment he has about the USSR. I would ask different questions of someone I knew looked back on the USSR fondly with nostalgia versus someone who saw it mostly as an impediment to the way they wanted to live. I realize it’s probably too late now, but if you get the chance and it doesn’t seem inappropriate, I want to know what kind of questions he wanted us to ask. Since he agreed to do it in the first place, even if he didn’t quite understand the situation, I would think there must have been something he did want to share - but what was it?