Nothing someone says before the word “but” really counts. I’m glad this tragedy is doing wonders for your political faction.

I think they’re a necessary evil, nothing ruins multiplayer more than cheats.

Ah okay, what Stamer’s leadership is doing is underhanded and an abuse of power, but at least they’re doing it for the ‘right reasons’.

That’s how you get disasters like unusable PPE, flammable clading or concrete that crumbles to dust.

They were the result of not spending enough money, and going for the cheapest options available (then using them way beyond their intended lifespan in the case of RAAC), not overinvestment.

But I don’t want to draw out an argument, so let’s just agree to disagree. I hope you’re right though.

I also don’t think it’s true that they’re not going to do a lot in office.

I feel if you think this you’re in some kind of denial. They’ve rolled back on so much…

And the commitments (if that’s the right word) they do have are so wishy-washy and toothless. For example the housebuilding one is that they’ll let developers build on more green belt and increase housing targets, no talk of investment of any kind - I’m sorry that’s not a serious policy! That’s like homoeopathy for policies! Green energy is much the same now that they’ve postponed (i.e. canned) the £28 billion green investment plan.

I guess we’ll see on workers’ rights, but as said in the article you’ve linked, a lot of the unions are dissatisfied with labour on that front which isn’t really a good sign for a big, serious commitment.

Winning and then doing almost nothing to fix the problems doesn’t really help the rest of us though.

What we’re banking on then is that they’re actually misleading everyone right now and are actually going to do quite at lot once in office. But the question is whether that’s actually likely or not…

Even if it was the case - it’s not exactly a symptom of a health democracy…

Was with you there until the Greens, while I also think they’re probably better than Labour and Conversistive atm they have much the same structural problems as any party. And more power and influence will likely exacerbate them imo. I think we have to somehow look beyond Westminister, and electoralism if we want to make a positive change in the country.

Is this another pledge?