I get why people choose to use tools like this, but I’m personally against SponsorBlock. Sponsors usually pay the content creator a LOT better than YouTube does, and the deals they offer to content creators can go up or down depending on the retention rate during the sponsored segments of previous videos.
That said, I still manually skip sponsored segments in anything I watch, usually. I’m not gonna pretend to be all high and mighty and act like I sit through every ad and that you should, too. But I’d rather do it manually, so that I can at the very least think about how bad I should feel for ruining their metrics. And also so that if they’re a short one that I don’t mind sitting through, or if I’ve stepped away from my screen while the video’s playing, that they still get their playback metrics for the ad.
I understand your point. But still, I have to use sponsorblock. Some content creators have an insane amount of advertising. I would not watch them at all without Sponsorblock. Maybe my view does not make money for them, but atleast it’s good for their metrics.
What a BS excuse. I do it cause I like free stuff and I don’t have to watch the ads or pay for it. Which is the real reason everyone does it.
But it well be an interesting next few years with the basically free money drying up in tech they well have to make money somehow. And I imagine a lot of people well cry when stuff folds or other things happen.
Or users will just move on. Why stay and get fucked? See reddit --> lemmy.
Not everyone will move on, and that’s fine. Let them watch ads and get spied on. That’s not for me.
Well, yeah, but right now lemmy is pretty convenient. No instances are asking users to pay or donate, and obviously many people would sooner flee to another instance than accept the idea of paying for the service they use. But that can’t work for an actual business.
My home is an ad free zone. I pay for Premium and I’d pay for no commercials, but since that isn’t an option, I block them.
This war on SponsorBlock is reminiscent of the 80s and the war on VCRs. Advertisers tried to make taping things illegal because they argued people would fast forward through commercials. They were right, but that doesn’t mean we don’t have the right to choose what we watch.
/u/aluminium is arguing for something like VCR companies building a way to skip ads automatically - I paid for the VCR and I don’t want to see ads
It’s not their problem what your preference is, and they aren’t incentived enough to care.
YouTube doesn’t even strictly know what the sponsor conversion rate is, since they aren’t involved in the deal
Louis Rossmann made a great point a long time ago - adblock my videos and donate me a dollar. That dollar is more that I’d ever get from you as an individual via Adsense or sponsor spots.
But you did go on to compare this situation to the war on VCRs. Which I think is a poor comparison. You gave your opinion, so I gave mine. That’s kind of how this works here for everyone, not just for you.
Also, sometimes sponsors have genuinely good products.
Karl Jobst had a Geologie sponsor which helped my skin clear up a bit.
Recently LTT had a WickedCushions sponsor which I’m hoping will work better for my headphones than my Chinese knock-off ones. I want cloth padding, not leather padding, for my headset, and the ones I got don’t snap in place like the official ones. Hoping WickedCushions are better. They’re arriving today.
Lastly, some of the sponsor segues and spots themselves are just plain funny and add to the content. Karl Jobst with Raid Shadow Legends, Internet Comment Etiquette and Internet Historian with NordVPN, most of LTT’s sponsors, etc.
Thank you sponsorblock for making me not have a clue what some of those brands are. Would you also believe me if I said I have never encountered a raids shadow legends segment thanks to sponsorblock and only seen it joked about in reddit comments? I ❤️ sponsorblock.
Used to until about 6 months ago, but didn’t actually end up using it much opting for Newpipe x Sponsorblock. Didn’t like the youtube app without sponsorblock, and going through the process of trying to get revanced working seemed more of a hassle than just using NewPipe. I was actually opening videos in my YouTube app to share to newpipe until I was like why am I going through the extra step? And just went fully into relying on newpipe for subscriptions. And on the TV which is one area where YouTube premium would come in handy it still didn’t skip stuff like sponsorblock so came to prefer my PC connected to the TV.
I came to much more prefer NewPipe with the ability to create channel groups that YouTube got rid of and never offered a replacement for years ago. Also, liked the integration of return YouTube dislike. And for playlists I like that if a video is removed it retains the video name and channel so I know what exactly was removed. And being able to 3x through videos. 2x is too slow.
And I’ve found YouTube algorithm not really helpful so I’ve come to really like the accountless approach so much that now I use freetube on desktop after wishing I could use newpipe on desktop. Sponsorblock and 3x speeds. Love it.
Other than blocking ads I feel like youtube premium has a long way to go to offer the features I’ve become accustomed to. Native integration of their own sponsorblock, actual downvote visibility over extensions trying to calculate it, and return of channel grouping would be the features I would expect. And why I like sponsorblock isn’t just because of sponsors. I love being able to skip calls for interactions such as like and subscribe, outros, intros, skip recaps, and skip to highlight. It’s as important to YouTube to me as reddit enhancement suite and third party apps was for Reddit. I’m a very pro third party alternative from the official app.
I get why people choose to use tools like this, but I’m personally against SponsorBlock. Sponsors usually pay the content creator a LOT better than YouTube does, and the deals they offer to content creators can go up or down depending on the retention rate during the sponsored segments of previous videos.
That said, I still manually skip sponsored segments in anything I watch, usually. I’m not gonna pretend to be all high and mighty and act like I sit through every ad and that you should, too. But I’d rather do it manually, so that I can at the very least think about how bad I should feel for ruining their metrics. And also so that if they’re a short one that I don’t mind sitting through, or if I’ve stepped away from my screen while the video’s playing, that they still get their playback metrics for the ad.
This is the level-headed reply I was hoping for.
I understand your point. But still, I have to use sponsorblock. Some content creators have an insane amount of advertising. I would not watch them at all without Sponsorblock. Maybe my view does not make money for them, but atleast it’s good for their metrics.
I wouldn’t even watch LTT without SponsorBlock tbh
What a BS excuse. I do it cause I like free stuff and I don’t have to watch the ads or pay for it. Which is the real reason everyone does it. But it well be an interesting next few years with the basically free money drying up in tech they well have to make money somehow. And I imagine a lot of people well cry when stuff folds or other things happen.
Or users will just move on. Why stay and get fucked? See reddit --> lemmy. Not everyone will move on, and that’s fine. Let them watch ads and get spied on. That’s not for me.
Well, yeah, but right now lemmy is pretty convenient. No instances are asking users to pay or donate, and obviously many people would sooner flee to another instance than accept the idea of paying for the service they use. But that can’t work for an actual business.
My home is an ad free zone. I pay for Premium and I’d pay for no commercials, but since that isn’t an option, I block them.
This war on SponsorBlock is reminiscent of the 80s and the war on VCRs. Advertisers tried to make taping things illegal because they argued people would fast forward through commercials. They were right, but that doesn’t mean we don’t have the right to choose what we watch.
/u/aluminium is arguing for something like VCR companies building a way to skip ads automatically - I paid for the VCR and I don’t want to see ads It’s not their problem what your preference is, and they aren’t incentived enough to care.
YouTube doesn’t even strictly know what the sponsor conversion rate is, since they aren’t involved in the deal
Louis Rossmann made a great point a long time ago - adblock my videos and donate me a dollar. That dollar is more that I’d ever get from you as an individual via Adsense or sponsor spots.
Nobody here is trying to force you to stop using it though.
They explained why they don’t use sponsorblock, and why they believe you shouldn’t either. But the choice is still yours.
Theres is a wide gap between offering a perspective on why watching the sponsorships is worthwhile, and trying to legally force you.
I didn’t accuse them of trying to force me to stop using SponsorBlock. They gave their opinion, so I gave mine. That’s kind of how this works here.
But you did go on to compare this situation to the war on VCRs. Which I think is a poor comparison. You gave your opinion, so I gave mine. That’s kind of how this works here for everyone, not just for you.
Also, sometimes sponsors have genuinely good products.
Karl Jobst had a Geologie sponsor which helped my skin clear up a bit.
Recently LTT had a WickedCushions sponsor which I’m hoping will work better for my headphones than my Chinese knock-off ones. I want cloth padding, not leather padding, for my headset, and the ones I got don’t snap in place like the official ones. Hoping WickedCushions are better. They’re arriving today.
Lastly, some of the sponsor segues and spots themselves are just plain funny and add to the content. Karl Jobst with Raid Shadow Legends, Internet Comment Etiquette and Internet Historian with NordVPN, most of LTT’s sponsors, etc.
Thank you sponsorblock for making me not have a clue what some of those brands are. Would you also believe me if I said I have never encountered a raids shadow legends segment thanks to sponsorblock and only seen it joked about in reddit comments? I ❤️ sponsorblock.
Weird flex on a post about how some sponsors are actually helpful but okay.
I will always segue into how much I love Sponsor Block and it’s crowd sourced project that allows people to make their experience more ad free.
Do you pay for youtube premium?
Used to until about 6 months ago, but didn’t actually end up using it much opting for Newpipe x Sponsorblock. Didn’t like the youtube app without sponsorblock, and going through the process of trying to get revanced working seemed more of a hassle than just using NewPipe. I was actually opening videos in my YouTube app to share to newpipe until I was like why am I going through the extra step? And just went fully into relying on newpipe for subscriptions. And on the TV which is one area where YouTube premium would come in handy it still didn’t skip stuff like sponsorblock so came to prefer my PC connected to the TV.
I came to much more prefer NewPipe with the ability to create channel groups that YouTube got rid of and never offered a replacement for years ago. Also, liked the integration of return YouTube dislike. And for playlists I like that if a video is removed it retains the video name and channel so I know what exactly was removed. And being able to 3x through videos. 2x is too slow.
And I’ve found YouTube algorithm not really helpful so I’ve come to really like the accountless approach so much that now I use freetube on desktop after wishing I could use newpipe on desktop. Sponsorblock and 3x speeds. Love it.
Other than blocking ads I feel like youtube premium has a long way to go to offer the features I’ve become accustomed to. Native integration of their own sponsorblock, actual downvote visibility over extensions trying to calculate it, and return of channel grouping would be the features I would expect. And why I like sponsorblock isn’t just because of sponsors. I love being able to skip calls for interactions such as like and subscribe, outros, intros, skip recaps, and skip to highlight. It’s as important to YouTube to me as reddit enhancement suite and third party apps was for Reddit. I’m a very pro third party alternative from the official app.