• heavyboots@lemmy.ml
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    I feel like this is almost where Apple is ahead of the game. Despite the EU hating it, they’ve been using the same lightning cable design for a long old time because it works well enough, it doesn’t suffer USB-A’s put it in 3 times to figure out which direction is right, and people have a billion of them laying around at this point.

    EDIT: Too many people to respond to individually but I do realize from a technical perspective it’s an inferior cable. Just saying the user experience was better for a long time before USB-C arrived and the fact they never changed it makes it easy to find a cable to use if you forgot yours etc. Yes it’s slow but I am not transferring stuff off and my iPhone regularly, no I’ve never had one die from the pins burning out (although I do know people that’s happened to).

    As for USB-C, I agree it’s better on paper and was excited when I got a laptop with USB-C but my personal experience trying to buy a PD cable that would actually deliver the rated 100w it was supposed to was abysmal. Went through multiple cables from Amazon that didn’t work for some reason, including Anker, and finally gave up and bought a cable from Apple that did work. But the fact some of them don’t do what they say they will and the fact you can end up with multiple black cables that all do different things but are completely unmarked as to what they do has made me very irritated with USB-C at this point, even while I do enjoy the higher speeds and power they can deliver once you figure out which cable is which.

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      1 year ago

      Well, I have no apple cables laying around, but plenty USB C. USB C has been used for many years as well.

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        USB C is the way to go. It works with most devices from most manufacturers. The only people left out are Apple users and cheap devices still using USB mini/micro

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              No it’s because they promised to support lightning for 15 years, that’s the level of trust partners can put into apple which can’t be done for any other oem, especially shitty lagdroids

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                especially shitty lagdroids

                Thanks for transporting me back to 2013 for a second. I didn’t realize anyone was still doing the iPhone vs Android flamewar nonsense lmao

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      1 year ago

      It’s also a closed system that no one else is allowed to use. Apple is far from everyone.

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      If its so great then why don’t they make it available for everyone to use? They don’t care about standards in the slightest.

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      I mean, sure, it works… But USBC would also just work. They already use it on their laptops (with them being huge proponents of thunderbolt and USBC), and iPads.

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      Except it’s a proprietary piece of junk stuck on USB 3.1 (and I love my thunderbolt connectors too much to let it slide), that can’t offer proper power delivery because of power pin literally burning out.

      The only thing they did good is fixing the need to check cable orientation before inserting it (yes, you don’t have to try three times, you can just actually use your eyes, USB-A connector’s orientations can easily be told apart just by two square thingies on each of it’s sides).

      But as USB-C came out two years later, it wiped the floor with lightning. Anyone saying otherwise is either insane, didn’t read the specs or purposefully misleading you. And only now Apple is switching over. Freaking 7 years later. Though, not because they realize how inferior their connector is, but because they were made to.

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        Speaking as an Apple user - I am heavily invested in their ecosystem - I am extremely happy that Lightning is on death’s door. I fully agree with the EU and I am very grateful to them for forcing Apple’s hand.

        That being said, your point about USB-A falls apart when you consider any situation where your vision is even partially obstructed. Such as; back of the computer, back of your monitors, a dock unless you’re holding it, etc etc.

        What I’m hoping will happen:

        1. Apple sells only USB-C to USB-C cables
        2. Apple users start requesting more USB-C ports on motherboards / desktop computers
        3. Mouse/Keyboard manufacturers produce USB-C alternatives of their products
        4. Motherboards move even more to USB-C
        5. GOTO 3 until USB-A becomes as legacy as VGA or PS/2
        6. We hopefully never see another single orientation external cable ever again.

        A lad can dream…

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          You don’t need to check female port orientation, it’s always the same, pins inside the port are looking at the board the connector is soldered to. Of course, unless manufacturer decided to do something funny, but no standard is protected from that.

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      Even Apple is gradually changing to USB C which also works on all directions, plus sometimes my lightning cables only work in a certain direction

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      Yeah, but it’s also limited to usb 2 speeds and it’s brutal to have to move any amount of data to/from and iphone.