• shastaxc@lemm.ee
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    12 hours ago

    Most conservatives I know think it’s dangerous to entertain trans ideas in children. They say kids don’t know what gender really means because they haven’t experienced puberty yet but the most effective time to use hormone blockers is before puberty. So they feel like it’s the parents who are encouraging use of hormone therapy for their kids because the parents are brainwashed by left media, and essentially committing child abuse.

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      10 hours ago

      To them I say:

      • If I’m old enough to be disfigured by puberty, I’m old enough for HRT.
      • A trans child is a blessing, deserving of the choice to avoid a puberty they are telling you they do not want.
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        Except for the fact that puberty is an actual thing that occurs without outside influence. HRT isn’t

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          Disclaimer: the obligation should not fall on a marginalized person to educate those ignorant. As such, when i have patiently done so, and I get met with “UH ACTUALLY DEBATE ME BRO”, I meet their bad faith and pseudoscience with “ok nazi, get blocked”. First they came for the trans and the disabled, THEN the socialists and trade unionists. I am just fine being indiscriminate with those who prove themselves to be intolerant. Protect yr energy fam.

          The reply: That’s like saying an epileptic person should go without life-saving seizure supression medication

          HRT is no different than any other medical intervention that allows a person to have a better quality of life by influencing the already existing systems of hormones and neurotransmitters for the given conditions/issues/wellbeing.

          What’s more, in the event that the human being making the choice with their doctor to use hormone blockers changes their mind, puberty resumes AND compensates such that the overall outcome is near-entirely unchanged compared to if had they not used blockers. (And are much less likely to self-harm or take their own life overall)

          The misinformation about trans kids and puberty is honestly audacious, such that anyone who actually cares about Trans People’s safety, well being and happiness would recognize such if they so much as scratch at the surface of current medical knowledge.

          Trans people are not your science experiment.

          One’s medical choices are noone’s business but that human being and their doctor. Parental ownership over children is quite a flawed institution when many parents are absentee, and that’s before you figure in the lack of educaction about, misinformation about, and outright internalized bigotry for trans people – which many parents fail their children by not confronting, unpacking…but instead making the problem of the small human being who has no legal standing in our rancidly unjust systems. This society believes itself more civilized than barbarians or cro-magnons or marauding vikings or australopithecus…which only multiplies it’s vicious indifferent violent tendencies.

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            8 hours ago

            “If God had wanted you to regulate your glucose levels he wouldn’t have given you type 1 diabetes. Now give me your goddam insulin!”

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            That’s like saying an epileptic person should go without life-saving seizure suppression medication

            Google false equivalency. 1.2% of people experience epilepsy. 100% of people experience puberty. Epilepsy requires intervention BECAUSE it isn’t normal. So my argument still tracks.

            Also, just because someone doesn’t like an experience doesn’t necessarily mean that it should not occur. People don’t like getting their wisdom teeth removed but it’s a process that must take place. And this is especially true with life changing decisions like HRT. Putting a decision so monumental into the hands of an individual still trying to figure out what career path they would like to take is borderline insane.

            Also, I’m going to need some sources on the effects of HRT being easily reversed after treatment stops, because there is a point at which this procedure becomes somewhat permanent. Take for example the case of Chloe Cole who I’m pretty sure you’ve heard of.