I just saw a full episode of his show. The fuck? I’m not a painter but I’ve seen my mom paint all my life.

This motherfucker just did in 15 minutes what would take her weeks. Like???

And he did it while talking, in clean fucking strokes. So fucking fast. I saw a literal masterpiece being created in fifteen minutes from nothing. From nothing. It was a blank fucking canvas, man.

I knew of Bob Ross, but I’d never actually seen him paint. Goddamn. How did actual artists react to him? Like, how do you not feel just thoroughly outclassed.

All while this mofo is saying how easy all that he’s doing is while I know for a fact how hard it is. Like, is he just gaslighting everyone?

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    as others here stated, Bob Ross just did a specific type of painting well but didn’t pioneer anything: except

    he is the father of ASMR. he may not have known it, but the arrangement of microphones and the use of the soft brushes, along with his cadence and personality, all laid the foundations

    most people tuned into his show to relax and feel good. as a kid, my grandmother would watch because she painted landscapes but i just liked my hairs standing on end and the squishy feeling from the scratch scratch, watching a task be completed, and hearing someone softly talking positive stuff to me

    and i know people will argue against this but ASMR, despite plenty not “getting it”, is a legitimate modern artform

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      ASMR, despite plenty not “getting it”, is a legitimate modern artform

      Look, I’m not saying you’re wrong necessarily, but uh I would need some more explanation about this. Would you say that say a mukbang video is also a legitimate modern artform or is ASMR somehow qualitatively different from other modern slop content?

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        I might argue yes (in a way).

        They are forms of expression ASMR using audio and visuals to form a unique experience. Maybe not a mukbang… not too familiar with that. I would clarify that ASMR may be a medium of artistic expression.

        In a similar way, personifying animals in furry art can be a genre or medium, and I still wouldn’t call MS Paint Sonic Inflation Pornography “high art”.

        Those are just my thoughts. I’m wary of gatekeeping artistic expression, and think “cringe” things are necessary for artistic expression to bloom. But maybe that’s just from my own experiences of learning how to draw, and making a lot of “bad” drawings in the process.

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        i know nothing about mukbang so i can’t comment on that

        but there are plenty of ASMR “slop” artists trying to draw engagement just like there is plenty of corporate “slop” art. but many of the early artists as well as some unknown percentage do masterful set design, stories, roleplays, characters, worldbuilding, audio design, and essentially create immersive short films or aural/visual experiences that go far beyond someone just making mouth noises into a microphone

        off the top of my head, and i’m sure others can add more, some prime examples would be Goodnight Moon and Dreamscape ASMR for storytelling. Ardra -ASMR would be a good example of immersion, especially her later works

        like EVERYTHING in this hellscape capitalism is perverting the shit out of it and it will ABSOLUTELY die as an artform and become pure slop

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            i wish i could go more in depth. i get a bit passionate because it really helps with my anxiety and I am one of the rare people that experienced the whole “tingles” thing since I was a child

            i only watch femme presenting artists so i can’t speak for the male presenting but i’m happy some of these super talented artists found a niche and a way to make a living

            sorry hope i didn’t seem too boomer-style upset

            it’s not at you

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                Frisson is distinct from ASMR but believed to be closely related

                Frisson is purely an auditory phenomenon while ASMR tends to be primarily visual

                there’s been only a few studies and some hypothesis about ASMR but the best one is that it is more tied to primate grooming behavior and mirror neurons

                for example, when i was in elementary school watching girls brush each other’s hair made me feel like fingers were going through my own. i felt everything i saw. i just thought it was normal didn’t know it was ASMR

                i also have a personal theory that it’s more common in AFAB cis/enby as well as transfemmes. like estrogen enhances it. THC does as well, at least for me