• Makan@lemmygrad.mlOP
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    13 days ago

    “No, I disagree with you. I gave my reasoning, you told me you were latina like it was relevant. This is dismissing the BIPOC arguments I am linking, by refusing to engage with them.”


    You are being class reductionist and you should not bring up BIPOC peoples in your original argument like it’s relevant to the CPUSA, which has many BIPOC peoples.


    “You said nothing of labor zionism’s awful and literally genocidal history and tokenized the few arab zionists in the party for legitimacy, what fun.”


    I didn’t because they’re not labor Zionist. And most of the org isn’t even Jewish or Israeli, it is Palestinian, including the leadership.


    “Youre right it’s not about being radical enough. I am not in the Red Calrion and acknowledge their issues. I disagree on many things with Rick. Doesnt change that he was doxxed while in the CPUSA, by a at the time CPUSA member, who later split from the CPUSA because they were perceived black nationalists. Complicated contradictions among settlers in Amerika.”


    Except CPUSA never even brought up Black nationalism and there are many people within the org that deny this. Also, you are uncritically quoting and linking to Red Clarion.


    “Bolivia’s current “socialist” president (now kicked out of the party) has police attacking organized indigenous workers and peasantry in an attempt to prevent indigenous Evo Morales from coming back to power. And where is South Africa right now? Apartheid functionally still in place just less obvious, many disaffected with the larger settler population in the SACP joined and formed the EFF. This decolonial communist politic is where the radical communist movement in South Africa is right now, and is something we desperately need to build in America. Lwazi Lushaba’s lectures on youtube are something I recommend and covers some of this history.”


    Bolivia’s Luis Acre is Indigenous himself and so is Evo Morales. The problem is that the party MAS is split on them and it’s wrong for them to split the party over personal ambition. But the socialist project in Bolivia is sound. South Africa has done away with apartheid, but was freed during the 1990s, when there was no one to support them further.


    “He campaigned greatly for Irish Americans and integrated Catholicism into whiteness, this is where white skin tone fully took over as the indicator for whiteness and preferencial economic treatment. And fuck the idea that the civil rights gains were gracefully given by the colonizers, those were due to militant action and untenable circumstances that the ruling class saw it in their best interest to remove formal segregation. This white supremacist does not get credit for doing something in his class interest. It’s not often it’s the first book I recommend, but read Settlers.”


    I already read Settlers. Do you want me to give you book recommendations too? Regardless, the civil rights gains were not given gracefully, but were won by the working-class with blood and sweat and death. Also, JFK integrated Irish Americans and Catholicism into whiteness.


    “CPUSA has had 105 years to show any kind of usefulness or revolutionary politic and has nothing to show for it besides running tail for and funneling resources to the greatest evil the world has ever seen. I have done my research, read their platforms articles and books, I have talked to the organizers, I have seen all the excuses. It’s just a dead end.”


    We won many reforms and victories, including being a big part of the anti-apartheid movement in the 1980s, which lead up to the sanctions against South Africa. We were behind NAARPR and NAIMSAL. In addition, many unions are here today because of us.