Over a quarter of Americans have no idea how anything works

i think “civil war” has become a placeholder for violent destabilization. if there’s some other word for it when trust in institutions is so low that the default response to “another guy walked into a building and opened fire on everybody” is being unfazed, americans don’t know it. everybody who isn’t angry is at least on edge, brittle. and the political system that was meant to diffuse revolutionary energy into the ballotbox has only surgically removed the revolutionary focus, leaving us with a rising tide of energy, occasionally foaming and bubbling over into violence in the workplace, at the school, at the club, in the home, and on the streets.

and the elections create swells of this unfocused agitation, which no longer ebb after the election as aggrieved factions now claim “the system is rigged!” because of course it is rigged, not that either faction wants to reform this. they want to manage the rigging and they are bothered by the other faction fiddling with the controller, because its our turn and mom said this was a two player game.

Americans have no idea how states or militarys or civil wars actually work.

The USA has the most well-funded army in the world. Any real attempt at civil disturbance would be immediately put down by the army. The military would need a significant internal split for civil war to ever be on the table. Even if, somehow, a significant portion of the army was opposed to the current government, nothing would happen because it wouldn’t benefit any capitalists at all to start a civil war.

The only significant divide in the American bourgeoisie is between democrat-flavoured tech giants and republican-flavoured jetski dealerships, and they certainly can’t be bothered to make a civil war happen

A civil war takes work and organization. Not expecting the chuds to get out further than a mile before they make a stop at an Applebees and lose interest.

Modern Americans are way too chickenshit for a civil war lmao

Over a quarter of Americans think the Sun goes around the Earth: poll

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2014/02/14/277058739/1-in-4-americans-think-the-sun-goes-around-the-earth-survey-says

In the last civil war there were was a split in the owning class between the industrial manufacturers, and the slaveholding agriculturalists. These were competing economic models. Without a similar irreconcilable split in the owning class there will never be another civil war. The closest you have today is competition between the rentier capitalists and manufacturers but thats nowhere near antagonistic enough. Can you imagine “our beautiful landlords, their smelly factory owners”.

I’ve been hearing libs (and chuds too) say this for nearly a decade now and I’m sick of it. Trump doesn’t control the military, if he tried to go rogue he’d just get arrested. Or just ignored. How many of the corporate interests that make up much of the ruling class today would benefit from a civil war? They’ve got a fairly sweet deal going on. I could see the Fed gov fall apart domestically, lose it’s ability to respond to disasters, and see state govs also abandon that responsibility, slowly leading to warlordism breaking out, but that’s really got very little to do with Donald Trump.

Yeah no, it’s just going to be more and more terrorism, and if we’re lucky, finally balkanization and imperial collapse.

Come on, balkanize already

The most I’m expecting is a short lived ad hoc tacticool “checkpoint” on the way to work to keep out the illegals, despite my town being in the geographic center of a continent.

A civil war over two factions of the same ruling class that agree on 99% of the policies, including the culture war bullshit…

What a Jester of an Empire.

I honestly don’t think it’s likely, seeing as there’s also no real viable candidates for a breakaway army. Militia types and boogaloo boys don’t really equate to a well-formed, competent army in and of themselves, and there’s a distinct lack of crucial infrastructure one’d need to maintain a fighting force capable of going toe-to-toe with the US army within the country. I assume they wouldn’t just get to walk off with a bunch of military assets and equipment, either.

On that note, we also haven’t seen any smaller regional conflicts that’d be a prelude to something happening at a national scale. (E.g. Bleeding Kansas)

to have a civil war, you have to have people who are suicidal and ready to die. we aren’t even kinda close to that yet.

Another quarter are excited for the civil war.