This summer’s Paris Olympics saw an experiment in AI-assisted algorithmic video surveillance. Now French officials say they want to make it permanent, in what experts call a worrying use of invasive and even racially discriminatory technology.
France is getting UK style surveillance without none of the benefits and rights allowed in public spaces for brits.
That’s the thing about GDPR in the EU, in terms of surveillance, it’s taking the right away from citizens for their own personal surveillance to at least be able to bring to the police to identify culprits, but has no qualms about allowing the greater risk that the GDPR was supposed to prevent, misuse and widescale of personal data. First it was when they stepped back the web regulations so websites can push personalized tracking onto users in the guise of forced personalized ads or absurd payment methods plans per site, and now they continue to show they don’t mind mass surveillance.
I get the impression that the GDPR in the EU is slowly being corrupted to prevent us from being able perform surveillance so that authorities minimize the risk of getting recorded doing something that they shouldn’t or calling out abusive practices while increasingly allowing our personal data to be abused. Rather than have a surveillance state that puts our personal data at risk next time they get hacked, it is also possible to allow the means and the regulations for us to record criminal behavior and present it to the authorities when needed, in a decentralized, non-cloud, non-shared way that would be much more secure than this.
So you’re saying that the GDPR makes it illegal for individuals to use surveillance for self defense. That’s not true. Recital 50 specifically allows people to share data with law enforcement. And if you’re referring to putting up cameras, that’s actually very ineffective at reducing crime while it does expand mass surveillance.
Putting up cameras does shit with crime when it’s managed by one central agency without crowdsourcing the effort, yes. It actually takes a lot of effort to go through false positives and all the footage, the sort of effort only the people who’ve been personally affected put into it, and even if you identify the portion where the culprit appears, that alone is not usually enough to identify them. It is still effective at identifying that a crime took place and to begin to define a profile of the culprit, and there are plenty of examples that prove how effective it from recordings on YouTube in countries where it is allowed. If it wasn’t, retail stores wouldn’t be putting them up.
You are also miscomprehending the GDPR and recital 50, which refers to things like phone recordings you take, not security cam, which you aren’t allowed to put and share in social networks under many circumstances but which is generally not enforced because random passerbys don’t normally sue for breach of it, although you are allowed to retain and share with law enforcement. GDPR is even criticized for its SLAPP potential on journalists.
Your take about GDPR allowing you to put up cameras is really wrong, and just about any simple search about putting up cameras and the GDPR will disprove it. If anyone really believes it, they will risk fines if neighbors or police want to be assholes (assuming you aren’t trying to be one yourself). It’s a shame you decided to weigh in in such an issue in a way that disinformed readers to such an extent.
France is getting UK style surveillance without none of the benefits and rights allowed in public spaces for brits.
That’s the thing about GDPR in the EU, in terms of surveillance, it’s taking the right away from citizens for their own personal surveillance to at least be able to bring to the police to identify culprits, but has no qualms about allowing the greater risk that the GDPR was supposed to prevent, misuse and widescale of personal data. First it was when they stepped back the web regulations so websites can push personalized tracking onto users in the guise of forced personalized ads or absurd payment methods plans per site, and now they continue to show they don’t mind mass surveillance.
I get the impression that the GDPR in the EU is slowly being corrupted to prevent us from being able perform surveillance so that authorities minimize the risk of getting recorded doing something that they shouldn’t or calling out abusive practices while increasingly allowing our personal data to be abused. Rather than have a surveillance state that puts our personal data at risk next time they get hacked, it is also possible to allow the means and the regulations for us to record criminal behavior and present it to the authorities when needed, in a decentralized, non-cloud, non-shared way that would be much more secure than this.
So you’re saying that the GDPR makes it illegal for individuals to use surveillance for self defense. That’s not true. Recital 50 specifically allows people to share data with law enforcement. And if you’re referring to putting up cameras, that’s actually very ineffective at reducing crime while it does expand mass surveillance.
Putting up cameras does shit with crime when it’s managed by one central agency without crowdsourcing the effort, yes. It actually takes a lot of effort to go through false positives and all the footage, the sort of effort only the people who’ve been personally affected put into it, and even if you identify the portion where the culprit appears, that alone is not usually enough to identify them. It is still effective at identifying that a crime took place and to begin to define a profile of the culprit, and there are plenty of examples that prove how effective it from recordings on YouTube in countries where it is allowed. If it wasn’t, retail stores wouldn’t be putting them up.
You are also miscomprehending the GDPR and recital 50, which refers to things like phone recordings you take, not security cam, which you aren’t allowed to put and share in social networks under many circumstances but which is generally not enforced because random passerbys don’t normally sue for breach of it, although you are allowed to retain and share with law enforcement. GDPR is even criticized for its SLAPP potential on journalists.
Your take about GDPR allowing you to put up cameras is really wrong, and just about any simple search about putting up cameras and the GDPR will disprove it. If anyone really believes it, they will risk fines if neighbors or police want to be assholes (assuming you aren’t trying to be one yourself). It’s a shame you decided to weigh in in such an issue in a way that disinformed readers to such an extent.