This is a very reasoned argument, I don’t understand the downvotes. Nothing said here is inflammatory or incorrect, it’s a pretty valid take on how Lemmy reacts to things they don’t want to be true, including legitimate criticisms of Harris. A lot of people seem to think anyone saying “but wait” means they’re for Trump, even if that’s not the case. I mean I get it, he was a disaster and it’s crazy the collective amnesia that half this country seems to have about it, Harris will assuredly be better than him, including with Gaza. It still doesn’t mean we should just unilaterally ban asking the Dems to do more, even if there are some that attempt to argue such things in bad faith.
I will say “vote hard enough” could work if we actually did it, but only way may be to have auto registration at 18. But I agree, Dems need to stop courting the ever decreasing “undecideds” and actually represent something left of center-right.
Voting is still valid though, a lot of us on the left seem to disdain voting as useless and only want to go with rhetoric, but it’s literally how MLKJ got the most done that was enforceable. Civil disobedience to get attention, million man marches to register the vote and getting people to the polls no matter what was in the way. If we ever actually did that maybe we could get some more lefty candidates on bigger stages.
personally I don’t see why people use the platform with downvotes visible lol, that being said a lot of the statements are valid, but I also believe that it will be worse with Trump as well. I mean he did meet with Netanyahu and tell him to just get the war over with and kill them all, and he has shown solid support of the war. Up to and including saying that a ceasefire is worthless and counterproductive to victory. He’s all but said he wants the genocide to continue on both sides. I’m firmly concerned that if he gets in, his way of “solving the issue” will be sending the US military to resolve the issue, and that’s not something the US needs right now with the tension between other countries already high.
and before anyone says he can’t do that, remember the last officially declared war was WW2 and that the standard tactic is the president (who is commander and chief) sends troops in for his maximum allowed days, then he turns around and says to Congress “so are you going to help our troops or not?” which moreorless forces their hand at supporting the war.
This is a very reasoned argument, I don’t understand the downvotes. Nothing said here is inflammatory or incorrect, it’s a pretty valid take on how Lemmy reacts to things they don’t want to be true, including legitimate criticisms of Harris. A lot of people seem to think anyone saying “but wait” means they’re for Trump, even if that’s not the case. I mean I get it, he was a disaster and it’s crazy the collective amnesia that half this country seems to have about it, Harris will assuredly be better than him, including with Gaza. It still doesn’t mean we should just unilaterally ban asking the Dems to do more, even if there are some that attempt to argue such things in bad faith.
I will say “vote hard enough” could work if we actually did it, but only way may be to have auto registration at 18. But I agree, Dems need to stop courting the ever decreasing “undecideds” and actually represent something left of center-right.
Voting is still valid though, a lot of us on the left seem to disdain voting as useless and only want to go with rhetoric, but it’s literally how MLKJ got the most done that was enforceable. Civil disobedience to get attention, million man marches to register the vote and getting people to the polls no matter what was in the way. If we ever actually did that maybe we could get some more lefty candidates on bigger stages.
personally I don’t see why people use the platform with downvotes visible lol, that being said a lot of the statements are valid, but I also believe that it will be worse with Trump as well. I mean he did meet with Netanyahu and tell him to just get the war over with and kill them all, and he has shown solid support of the war. Up to and including saying that a ceasefire is worthless and counterproductive to victory. He’s all but said he wants the genocide to continue on both sides. I’m firmly concerned that if he gets in, his way of “solving the issue” will be sending the US military to resolve the issue, and that’s not something the US needs right now with the tension between other countries already high.
and before anyone says he can’t do that, remember the last officially declared war was WW2 and that the standard tactic is the president (who is commander and chief) sends troops in for his maximum allowed days, then he turns around and says to Congress “so are you going to help our troops or not?” which moreorless forces their hand at supporting the war.