• spauldo@lemmy.ml
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    And I’ve explained several times why Hawaii is irrelevant to the topic, yet you keep yammering on about it and wanting me to “condone” the US’ actions in Hawaii. What I condone or not condone has no bearing on the PRC and Taiwan situation. What the US did in Hawaii has no bearing on the PRC and Taiwan situation. You’re just trying to deflect the actual argument.

    Again, your argument is nonsensical and I explained in detail why it’s nonsensical.

    No, you didn’t. You sidestepped the topic altogether and tried to turn the discussion into something else.

    China will either let people of Taiwan kick US out the way people did in Hong Kong, or they will take action to kick US out. Either way, the end result will be that US is going to lose its unsinkable carrier.

    And when that day happens, the PRC will finally own Taiwan. Until then, it’s just hand waving and words. Feel free to send me a “I told you so” message when it happens.

    • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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      And I’ve explained several times why I think China should start doing all the things US is doing in Taiwan in Hawaii. Of course, you’re correct that making parallels between the two is at best superficial. Taiwan is rogue province of China, while Hawaii is an independent country US occupied by force.

      Meanwhile, I don’t know what argument you claim I’m trying to deflect given that I’ve repeatedly addressed yours directly.

      And when that day happens, the PRC will finally own Taiwan. Until then, it’s just hand waving and words. Feel free to send me a “I told you so” message when it happens.

      If you genuinely believe that then really don’t know what else to tell you. It’s pretty obvious that China is allowing Taiwan to play these games, but the reality is there is no substance behind them. Claiming Taiwan is independent is like claiming that CHAZ was independent before cops cleared it out.

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        Look, it’s simple:

        Can the PRC arrest me if I run down the streets of Taipei naked? No? Then they don’t own Taiwan.

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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          Literally the argument you could make about CHAZ while it was around. Does that mean CHAZ was a legitimate autonomous region in any meaningful sense?

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            That part of Cap Hill still received government services and laws still applied there. Police could go in and arrest people. The police chose to ignore calls on the area.

            The two situations have jack shit to do with each other and are not similar at all.

            • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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              Taiwan is likewise entirely dependent on mainland China economically, and Chinese military could go in and put an end to the farce any time as well. They’re choosing to let the situation be. It’s basically exactly the same situation.

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                Taiwan is absolutely not entirely dependent on the mainland. The PRC also does not have the ability put any successful military force on the island otherwise they would have done it. It is delusional to think otherwise.