Among the most significant changes with this year’s Elements releases has little to do with new features but instead concerns the ways users purchase and own the software. While prior versions of Photoshop and Premiere Elements have been lifetime licenses — the user buys the software and then owns it indefinitely — this year’s release has moved to a three-year license term.

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    why cant people just give up adobe and switch to davinci and affinity

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      Ecosystems and collaboration. If you’re already using Adobe for X and Y in your teams, it’s cheaper to get a CC license; and as for collaboration Adobe files are proprietary (and tbh so are Affinity files) so it’s harder to transition off of them. You can open .psd files in affinity, but wanting to export one will rasterize your text. And you can’t even export a .ai file, sure you can do pdfs and that preserves vector information and layers, but that’s just friction that businesses wouldn’t want to deal with.

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    Remember, it’s morally correct to pirate every single adobe product. Same goes for every Nintendo product

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    There has to be a meaningful number of companies where each individually is spending more on adobe licenses than it would cost them to pay a bunch of developers to get gimp to the point where it is a fully sufficient alternative. But hey, the only thing more important to capitalists than making profit seems to be, to not go for cheaper FLOSS options, rather than spending pointlessly large amounts of money on proprietary software…

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      A lot of FOSS projects have succeeded in approximately this way. I think it can only be a matter of time until this happens even in this area.

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    Weird, just looking at my stats for ‘adobe products pirated’. The line item listed just went from 0/lifetime to ~1 every 3 years.

    I wonder if this will affect their profit margin.

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    That’s why I’m a little skeptical when buying lifetime licenses.

    I love my Plex server and even pay for Plex pass, would love to buy lifetime. But what if two weeks after I buy they just decide this isn’t their business model anymore?

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      They cannot change the terms of a license without reserving themselves the right to do so which would be a red flag, this is in reference to future sales of the license for this software.

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      Isn’t Plex FOSS and you only need to pay for the extras? You don’t need PlexPass.

      I did buy the lifetime almost 15 years ago. I’m pretty happy with my purchase.

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        Plex is not FOSS. But I am with you. I bought Plex pass about 10 years ago and still use it daily

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        It looks like the media player is open source, but the media server is not.

        I also bought the lifetime license a while ago, and am also happy with that purchase.

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    And then once this move has had enough to time to narrow their userbase to only the ones dumb enough to tolerate such bullshit, they’ll do it again because number go up lol

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    I fucking hate Adobe so much. Their software has been in a nose dive for years now. I still have to use it for work at the moment, but I’m slowly seeing signs that alternatives are picking up enough adoption to finally ditch them.

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      I ditched after CS6… immediately when they said it would go to subscription I installed darktable

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    The new license comes in this really cute collar! To activate it. Simply lock the collar on the user’s neck and bam! You got 3 years of free Adobe Acrobat and Elements!

    Do not take the collar off. It is secured by Battle Royale Inc. it will remove the user’s neck area separating the top part from the bottom part. It’s a very strict but effective license option!

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      Also, the collar may cause slight discomfort including (but not limited to) itching, rashes, choking, rashes and llergic reactions). For such cases, we have technitians availiable in 20+ of the world’s largest cities to help you alleviate the symptoms! (You’ll have to get an appointment through a fake AI robocall first)

      T&C

      Any attempt to touch the collar by a person not wearing it will cause the collar to start burning the flesh of both the toucher and wearer. When the wesrer wishes to use Adobe Elements, they have to plug in their collar into the computer. Only the wearer may touch the wire of the collar - any attempt by a 3rd party to touch the collar will cause a 80dB screeching noise to be emitted by the collar. Any complains must be arbitrated. We will not budge like those pussies over at Disney. If you’re an EU citizen you have to renounce your citizenship if you wish to use Adobe products. Our products may onle be used in progressive democracies with strong corporate freedom of forced arbitration.

      Spoiler

      Tbh I think I sold them way too short since their agreement would be at least 35000 words long

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        I love it!

        This just in! The collars are now compatible with the new Samsung USB C battery packs! You know what that means right?

        That’s right! The employees can now return home without the automatic head separation system going off! The battery packs are available at Walmart and Costco. They are not rechargeable one time use and biodegradable! You’re saving the planet! One pack allows the employee full freedom to go shopping, ho home, be with their family, watch someone take a shower and participate in conjugal visitation. You must not wet the collar to prevent accidental loss of GPS communication to the Deadman switch. Also plan your routes accordingly, you must not drive under any bridge or enter buildings with thickness greater than 12 inches of concrete.

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    Fuck Adobe. They are the epitome of the greedy, toxic software company.

    I switched from Photoshop over to Krita last year. I’ve tried Gimp in the past, but just can’t adjust to the UI. Krita is different too, but not to the same degree. I’ve been enjoying it. It’s well-made and very powerful, with very good online support.

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      GIMP 3.0 RC1 will come very soon (this month) & offers a lot of missing features users expect like adjustment layers (I’ve been waiting a decade for this).

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      Today I went to cancel the Adobe stock trial, and during this extensive cancellation process, they tried to score me on another package for a year, and when I checked, it didn’t include the product which I was fucking canceling… Which is just insane and ridiculous!

      Hey I’m canceling this product.

      Oh ok. You want to give us a bunch of money for more unrelated products?

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      Can recommend the Affinity suite for anyone looking for some good alternatives.

      Darktable is alright for LightRoom replacement as well.

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        Swapped to the Affinity suite a few months ago and have been loving it. DaVinci Resolve replaced Premiere. Still having trouble finding a decent After Effects replacement though. I’ve been eyeing Natron but haven’t tried it yet.

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          Oh yeah resolve is great as well. Love how they all have iPad apps too, moved so much of my workflow to the couch.

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            To be honest, I never considered fusion to be the same thing. But I guess it is. Hmm. Thanks for that insight. I’m going to look into fusions features more.

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        it’s funny that affinity designer can parse PDFs much better than illustrator

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          Inkscape recently also got decent multipage import and export for multipage pdfs and honestly it works great!

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            edit: I just realized I’ve been gushing about affinity for a while. sorry you can just read the next two paragraphs if you just want what’s relevant to you and not “hey you know what else is cool about affinity?”

            yeah i haven’t used inkscape but designer 2.x blew my mind. I had a job recently to change the design of a flyer and my only source was a 2-page PDF. I opened it in illustrator and it just insisted on outlining all text from page 1 and keeping all text for page 2 but in different text objects for every line.

            tried it in affinity designer, I noticed there’s an option that says “Favor editable text over fidelity”. voila. both pages with selectable text in a single text box per column. if I don’t select the option it does the line by line separate text object thing but for both pages as well, so it’s still better than illustrator. idk why illustrator insists that the first page cannot possibly be interpreted as text.

            also corner rounding, offsetting paths and adding transparency gradients being nondestructive tools rather than the tedious and/or destructive methods in illustrator is enough for me to stick to affinity.

            the only things I’m missing is the repeat action command and the view bleeds toggle, which is mind blowing that it didn’t exist in designer. there are dumb workarounds but I don’t like that. also more controls over swatches would be nice, like why don’t they have folders…

            still, other than these maybe three things which are not deal breakers for me, I prefer affinity pretty close to 100% of the time now. it’s faster too, and being able to switch personas for most use cases rather than launching Photoshop, InDesign and Illustrator at the same time is a godsend.

            they also innovated and came up with the patented new concept called Consistency™. apparently if you’re one company that publishes several pieces of software, you can just make it so the same exact tools work the same exact way across all your software. genius!

            meanwhile adobe doesn’t even have a standard drop shadow effect for all adobe products.

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        How does the affinity suite work for surface pattern design? My girlfriend does that on the side and is super annoyed at Adobe, but pain/disability limits the time she can decide to it, so hasn’t had the energy to try that one yet.

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    Literally everyone hates Adobe. At this point I’m shocked there hasn’t been a consortium of companies pushing for alternatives.

    It’s not even just about the money. So many companies rely on a workflow and business model that Adobe can change on a whim at literally any time they like. That’s a level of trust I’m surprised that so many companies and governments are completely fine with.

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    Pricing seems to be the same as the previous version. They could have at least charged a little less for the much shorter licenses.

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        Pretty fun dumb thing to play with. Use it to entertain friends and impress Luddites tech-illiterate boomers like my Dad.

        Occasionally someone is able to manually finesse it into making it do something actually cool.

        Edit : To be clear, I support artists and do NOT support the replacement of genuine and meaningful art created by individual minds.

        At the same time, I also would pay to watch a live real human choir + orchestra performance of that “Newton’s Genius” song if someone put that LLM song to sheet music.

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          luddites weren’t anti technology, they were pro workers rights. they would find gpt style ai offensive.

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            I would argue that in their pursuit of worker rights they sought to prevent progress rather than supporting using the means of progress to lighten their own workload and then fight to receive the benefit that such machinery could provide.

            Reading more on them via this article, so Luddite is the wrong term. Maybe I was trying to use that term instead of just saying “impressing a tech-ignorant boomer like my dad.”

            I’m for worker rights as well, but I don’t think that means we should go back to the dark ages for production.

            I just think that the bosses shouldn’t get all the money from the robot savings, while everyone else works their asses off for no additional benefit.

            Sort of like how I can use a dumb “AI” music tool thing to share jokes with friends and dumb meme posts, but at the same time also think that Columbia records or whatever music corp or Ticketmaster should NOT be able to gouge the prices for concerts and then on top of that, not pass the increased profit to the actual artists.

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              The article you linked is much more detailed than the one I read, so this interaction has benefited both of us.

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                Gotta love mutual aid! 🫡 thanks for providing me the incentive to learn more as well.

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          I dunno, luddites like me aren’t impressed at it. We’re rolling our eyes at it.

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            No worries. It’s not for everyone.

            I’m hoping the dumb songs that I have that company fart out for free as jokes supporting Lemmy comments, or as backing tracks for clips of my friends and I playing Fortnite that I share just amongst our group of 10 people won’t somehow upend and displace the countless artists whose works I’ve supported over the decades via concert ticket purchases, royalties via movie soundtrack licensing, and buying official merchandise.