• Smoogs@lemmy.world
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    28 days ago

    Define asap as a unit of time. As Being in a typical emergency waiting room for a life saving vaccine you could be waiting a full day.

    Things that are faster than the emergency services:

    Doing your taxes

    Applying for residency

    Applying for passport.

    Applying for citizenship

    Testing and buying a new car.

    Getting a background check done

    Waiting for the tv technician to arrive at your home when they give you an 8 hr waiting period and also the installation.

    Being on hold with literally any service.

    Getting any form of dental work done

    Any sports game.

    Painting a room

    Doing a marathon

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        And yet people still die waiting in ER.

        Working in ER doesn’t trump people who have been in ER waiting/dying to be seen. There have been deaths waiting in ER and it’s dismissed as not important enough to change the situation. If anything, claiming you worked in ER and defending this shit is admittance to apathy and sociopathic tendencies

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            27 days ago

            That’s because of a bias liability clause. legally you’ve been coached that anyone dying in the waiting room isn’t to do with the waiting room and should be defended that their death is unrelated so that you can absolve yourself of any liability.

            https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8743675/

            identified the first 6-hour ED stay as a critical factor; after the first 6 hours of ED stay, the risks of mortality and admission to the intensive care unit increased by twofold progressively when patient permanence exceeded 24 hours. Chalfin et al. [9] reported a higher in-hospital mortality rate (17.4% vs. 12.9%) in a cohort of 120 hospitals for patients who were in the ED for more than 6 hours. Because of overcrowding, the risk of medical error becomes even more tangible, especially when we consider patients staying for long periods in overcrowded ED hallways/observation rooms [10]. The economic burden for patients is particularly high for those who are affected by diseases and needing critical care—such as patients with respiratory insufficiency who need noninvasive ventilation [11] or sepsis subjects—who usually stay in the ED for a long time before being assigned to the appropriate hospital ward [12,13].

            Study 2021

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              The study you link has literally nothing to do with your claim.

              Do you find it weird that people die in ERs sometimes, and it happens more often in overcrowded ERs, as the study you link suggests? Because that’s what it’s saying. That long triage times and short staffing leads to worse patient outcomes… And surprise, this study was in 2021, still peak COVID year.

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                Covid is still here dumbass. And the several issues they named aren’t even Covid related

                Holy shit All the fucking excuses you just come up with. You are so full of shit. You don’t even work in an ER. Fuck off psychopath. Stay away from people.

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      Yes if you come in walking and talking into the er youll wait there for a while.

      Trust me if you come there with half your face stuck youll get the shot before you can say fast.

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        If you’re walking and talking you’re using the last mobility to get help. You can walk and talk in early stages of many things that you need to get to an ER for EARLY treatment such as rabies, sepsis, respiratory, cardiovascular and the longer they are in waiting time the more complications there are.

        https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8743675/