Government officials are publicly admitting they “knew about aliens but lied”? Techbros are jacking themselves to death about how aliens superior intelligence has let them trap us somehow? Apparently the government has new terminology for these space aliens that are supposed to exist? How much of this is real? Or is it mainly just bullshit?
Pretty sure it’s all bullshit. I’ll believe it when someone demonstrates conclusive proof. This is one of those “extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence”. The amount of energy and resources someone would need to fly interstellar distances is absurd. Unless someone can show me a space ship it’s not worth my time.
Too much sci-fi media has poisoned people’s brains. You’re absolutely correct about how much energy it would require to leave a solar system, then travel to another. Traveling at the speed of light would still take several years to go to our nearest neighbor. And the closer you get to the speed of light, the more energy you need to go forward as your mass increases.
If you fired a speck of dust at the speed of light at something, it would hit with more force than a nuclear bomb. So imagine how much force is required to propel a huge ass ship.
traveling at high fractions of the speed of light means that trip time from the travellers perspective is reduced due to relativistic effects. that said, this changes nothing about the other challeneges.
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Flying all the way across space just to do a few whirls in the sky above the upright ape meatsacks like one of us riding a motorcycle from Spain to Japan to pop a wheelie in front of a beetle and then peace out✌️
I think with even current, possible theoretical models of an orion drive that uses antimatter-matter reactions we would only reach around 40% at most of the speed of light. Not bad, but at 99% it would take 4 years? Not exactly sure how that would scale down.
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It’s been a minute since I last talked UFOs with my friend online who’s into them but this has been debunked that only the USA and Europe see UAPs.
https://hexbear.net/post/3018151 an old removed thread with some good discussion on it and points by @TankieTanuki@hexbear.net
Only the superior brainpan of the anglos can perceive the aliens
iirc this is only english language reports or something it’s not really the gotcha people think it is
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yeah it’s only data from NUFORC a US based English language org. obviously people aren’t gonna be calling them from all over the world to report sightings. people need to stop posting this misleading shit
It’s bullshit, this shit has happened multiple times in my life. The 90’s was filled with ‘totally legit’ claims of aliens with a whole industry built around grifting area 51.
ill defer to Duke Nukem on this one
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
It’s riding on the back of Lue Elizondo, the former US Torture Czar and a CI operative who is urging immunity for those who broke the law for the sake of “national security.”
All of the big names in the past few years have had a connection to the US military and/or intelligence, and none of them have suffered any consequences. Most all of them are closely tied to Lue and each other.
Lue got caught trying to fake a UFO sighting in his backyard, and after years on the podcast circuit he just released a book a few weeks ago - a book which is ghost-written and which basically rehashes decades of UFO rumors in a new package. Since the release his appearances have been on overdrive which is partly why so many people are talking about it right now. Mellon (an operative from the banking family who is also interested in UFOs) is close to him and wrote the forward which calls on Great Man Theory to describe Lue lmao
US Congress was split on legislation that was supposed to shine a light on what is going on behind their backs, and it had proposed amendments: The Dems wanted to give it teeth, while the Reps wanted to declaw it (while claiming the opposite). iirc it just failed for the second year in a row, but I might be getting my bills confused. Anyway, Lue is a chud who is very comfortable in right-wing spaces - he’s been on JRE multiple times for example. I don’t recall him speaking out against the legislative shenanigans.
I think there actually is something behind all of this - alien or not - but the public is clearly getting a drip feed to steer them toward a particular narrative and interpretation. Most of which is probably bullshit. Lue and friends have made it pretty clear that there’s a limited hangout going on, but insist that it’s for our own good. They are very US-centric and fear-monger about adversaries frequently.
I’m still interested in UFOs - they have a long and strange history across the globe - but I don’t trust any of the recent names in the space whatsoever. Any truth they might speak is going to be diluted with propaganda. They could actually be ushering in some sort of disclosure or recognition but it won’t make me think any more highly of them. I worry about how successful they’ve been at leading a growing discussion on the topic even though I’ve wanted more awareness on it for many years.
it’s always been real
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What “new” shit are you talking about because literally every year since 2015 they talk about the exact same shit like it’s new but oh no it’s just luiz elizondo and the FLIR tic tac video, AGAIN
The purpose of “ufo disclosure” is to manufacture consent for granting epistemological authority and therefore social/political/economic authority to the American m.i.c.
Intended individual outcomes can range from “give dod more funding to counter X threat, even if we don’t really understand what it is and it might just be china not aliens”, all the way to “govt insiders are active partners in alliance with galactic civ, we should acquiesce to their every suggestion and have no expectation of democratic participation”
It’s not real. Honestly it’s never real, and companies keep pretending it is because it gets views. So stop believing this shit.
Even when it’s so real that world leaders are doing press conferences about it, you should still be at least somewhat skeptical.
I want to believe.
In addition to what others said; I’ve always thought all the released footage, pictures, etc from hearings and actual government sources was a way of the U.S to flex it’s covert weapons/air programs. Civilians could never hope to access that information and get told only what they want to hear by intelligence-connected folks and other nations get to wonder either or not it’s actually U.S tech. Another person made as point that it requires immense energy to travel interstellar distances. All the footage we’ve seen of “UFOs” have been on Earth, not in space or in satellite detection.
There was a thread a while back that asked if the U.S would beat China in direct conflict. Barring nukes, I do still think China would be successful in the long run; but we’d see some insanely ghoulish shit right out of trillion dollar laboratories and whatever horrible shit is in the Pandora’s box of the M.I.C that they’re flexing right in front of us through Jet-fighter footage.
At a job I worked a long time ago, I had a supervisor who was a polejockey in the D.I.A. He was extremely, extremely tight-lipped on everything. The only thing he ever told me is that America had a vast (he heavily emphasized “vast”), sprawling complex of underground railroads and loading stations built during the Cold War in order to mask deployments or military loads from satellites or espionage. Doesn’t mean they still wont use above-ground railroads; it’s just how they hide a lot of more sensitive things.
So with that infrastructure in mind, the trillions of dollars that have been siphoned out of the Pentagon and the relative power of the M.I.C and intelligence community; I don’t doubt for one bit that 90% of what we see is just the U.S flexing their super-expensive toys.
i dunno dawg, people like Grusch are talking about ‘extradimensional’ beings now, it’s getting very silly
anytime I hear an interview with one of these modern ufology guys1 (who are always alarmingly close to the US military or intelligence and for some reason brag about it?) it’s all bluster and technobabble with plenty of appeals to authority like: “this one guy is a scientist, so when he says UFO’s are real, they must be!” or “this active psyops officer told me that the US definitely has super secret alien tech”
some of the declassified videos are a bit funky, but honestly I think it’s more likely that a blob moving at physics-defying speeds is actually just a camera artefact, an illusion or an insect, than actually breaking the laws of physics.
1 Luis Elizondo is formerly Army Intelligence, David Grusch is USAF intelligence, Tom DeLonge is running an org called To The Stars Academy which receives funding from and works with the US military and was literally founded by Jim Semivan, ex CIA, Avi Loeb got his start in science through the IDF Talpiot program (but at least he’s doing some real science sometimes), etc etc
