• FortifiedAttack [any]@hexbear.net
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    2 months ago

    They didn’t care because being a Star Trek fan meant being a weird, fat loser nerd 20 years ago.

    Now the wine-clinking neoliberals are pretending to always have thought it a progressive masterpiece, when in reality, they thought it was entertainment for freaks.

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      And now the wine-clinking liberals are giddy for more Section 31/Terran Empire apologism and dismantling the Federation one “prestige tv” treatment at a time.

      DS9 challenged the Federation’s integrity and principles. The current Kurtzman-era hacks don’t even care what those principles actually were.

      EDIT: Adding this extra bit from further down for clarification of where I stand on current Trek shows.

      Lower Decks, Prodigy, and (to some extent) SNW are good in spite of Kurtzman’s presence. He’s constantly pushing for his precious Section 31 project and anything he gets more direct control over becomes smeared with P R E S T I G E T V misery-for-misery’s-sake, cheap sloppy sensationalism, and contrarianism against Trek’s founding themes, which has hurt Trek long enough.

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        Your brush is a bit overbroad. The hacks currently dismantling the integrity and principles of the Federation are only running some of the current era Trek shows. Lower Decks is the best showcase of Federation values there’s ever been.

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          I’ll quote what I already said in another reply chain.

          Lower Decks, Prodigy, and (to some extent) SNW are good in spite of Kurtzman’s presence. He’s constantly pushing for his precious Section 31 project and anything he gets more direct control over becomes smeared with P R E S T I G E T V misery-for-misery’s-sake, cheap sloppy sensationalism, and contrarianism against Trek’s founding themes, which has hurt Trek long enough.

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            First of all, death to the traitor Kurtzman of course. But just like the hated Rick Berman before him, I don’t think he can really ruin Trek as a whole.

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              just like the hated Rick Berman before him

              The tacticool-fantasizing misanthropic edgelord that sex pested dax-stoked right out of the show because she wouldn’t fuck him? That guy? I may have gotten names mixed up.

              I don’t think he can really ruin Trek as a whole.

              He’s certainly trying his best and no one seems willing, if able, to dethrone him.

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                Yes that’s the guy. He also created gold pressed latinum because he refused to believe or understand the concept of a post-scarcity post-capitalism economy. Which is why I especially appreciated Boimler extremely obviously not giving a shit about latinum during the Cerritos’ visit to DS9.

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                  Lower Decks is the flagship of Trek in the present day, far as I’m concerned. Comedy, sure, but like good comedy, it speaks truth to power (including the hacks like Berman and Kurtzman). There was even a subtle jab once where a Mariner rant about asshole leadership coincided with Kurtzman’s opening credit showing up.